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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:30:51 GMT
must admit I normally don't .... but on the other hand 6'4" beam, plastic and no sharp edges We used to routinely use one gate on wide locks when I traveled around the system with my mum on our two 55ft narrow boats. It's the most efficient way to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:38:35 GMT
I think you would get short shift from me if you started lecturing me to always open both gates! Always open both gates ! You know it's the right thing to do so do it! Perhaps CRT should tel their vlockies this - as I've never had both gates opened for me unless I've requested it due to wind or boat position! Better get Foxy and Nick both on to it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:40:16 GMT
You must be getting pretty bad wind if it means you can't open lock gates !
Have you seen the quack about it ?
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Post by Andyberg on Dec 3, 2019 16:43:46 GMT
Always open both gates ! You know it's the right thing to do so do it! Better get Foxy and Nick both on to it! Dream team... One can double check all documentation is in order and roof/deck etc is clear of any personal possessions / rubbish whilst the other audits correct lock operation whilst muttering ‘Ive been boating for 56 years dont you know’ 👍
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:44:37 GMT
You must be getting pretty bad wind if it means you can't open lock gates ! Have you seen the quack about it ? Yep, just get told to give up the curries and beer - quacks are useless when steering a narrowboat!
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 3, 2019 17:07:55 GMT
That is called bolting the stable after the horse has left. I’d still have encountered the fatty half way through the tunnel. Wait until the crime is committed, then punish the perp. Modern thinking is that prevention is better than cure - prevention by education. Seems fairly obvious to me, but your hyper sensitivity to even receiving an informative email is clearly more important to you than someone else’s boat having to reverse half the length of the tunnel. Quite a selfish attitude, when you think about it. So what about sending a letter/email to all narrowboat owners about singlegating in wide locks? I mean we know that its done by some narrowboaters, its the biggest cause of leaks in lock gates, so surely an email sent to all narrowboaters would be appropiate warning of the dangers and boaters responsibiliities? I really wouldn’t have a problem with this. In fact it’s probably been mentioned at least once in Damian’s weekly pep talks. Doesn’t phase me at all - why would it? Of course it isn’t the biggest cause of leaks in lock gates, especially narrow locks (outside your sphere of experience I guess!). The biggest cause of leaks is poor maintenance and rubbish getting stuck between gate and cill/lock wall. And yes, we do typically operate one gate on wide locks. However, just as we don’t touch the sides of a narrow lock on entry, I also don’t touch the sealing strip of the closed gate. Unlike some people we can actually drive without routinely hitting things!
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 3, 2019 17:09:59 GMT
That is called bolting the stable after the horse has left. You have used the word "bolt" incorrectly. "Close the stable door after the horse has bolted" is the term. When a horse "bolts" it moves rapidly away from something. Don't ask me how I know this. I have the bruises. Better than my first attempt which was bolting the horse after the stable door has left. My version is better. Stable doors have bolts. And have you seen how slowly fat boats move? That can hardly be called “bolting”!
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 3, 2019 17:12:49 GMT
That is called bolting the stable after the horse has left. I’d still have encountered the fatty half way through the tunnel. Wait until the crime is committed, then punish the perp. Modern thinking is that prevention is better than cure - prevention by education. Seems fairly obvious to me, but your hyper sensitivity to even receiving an informative email is clearly more important to you than someone else’s boat having to reverse half the length of the tunnel. Quite a selfish attitude, when you think about it. Let's not see you run away with the facts again nick. You do realise it's not a criminal offence don't you, therefore it's not a crime. It's also not a regular occurrence. No need for your over dramatisation of what's actually happening. With the amount of signage crt regales in installing, I'm somewhat surprised that they have not installed signs informing new boaters of the rules regarding passage for wide beams at blisworth tunnel. A lot of the shit stirring regarding this comes from the trip boat guy, who often likes to tell stories, which ultimately are more often than not proved unsubstantiated. Stoke bruerne does have an issue with boats and boat owners, and one or two players nearby do like to keep that going. I dunno, maybe there is a bylaw about fat boats through tunnels? Anyway, lots of things are a crime even though there isn’t a law against it. Your hats, to start with. But seriously, no I appreciate it isn’t a frequent occurrence but equally, you are being a drama queen about being so upset about receiving a letter. It’s all SO UNFAIR
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 3, 2019 17:14:12 GMT
Tight is better than loose when it comes to lock gates. And other things.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:17:51 GMT
You have used the word "bolt" incorrectly. "Close the stable door after the horse has bolted" is the term. When a horse "bolts" it moves rapidly away from something. Don't ask me how I know this. I have the bruises. Better than my first attempt which was bolting the horse after the stable door has left. My version is better. Stable doors have bolts. And have you seen how slowly fat boats move? That can hardly be called “bolting”! The whole object of the phrase is use of the word "bolt" to describe the horse. It's got nothing to do with boats or door securing hardware. ETA and it is improbable that a horse would have the required knowledge to open a door even if it was closed without a bolt. Specially an inward opening door type. I can't really remember the exact hardware used so it's possible you are correct but I very much doubt it.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 3, 2019 17:34:40 GMT
Better than my first attempt which was bolting the horse after the stable door has left. My version is better. Stable doors have bolts. And have you seen how slowly fat boats move? That can hardly be called “bolting”! The whole object of the phrase is use of the word "bolt" to describe the horse. It's got nothing to do with boats or door securing hardware. ETA and it is improbable that a horse would have the required knowledge to open a door even if it was closed without a bolt. Specially an inward opening door type. I can't really remember the exact hardware used so it's possible you are correct but I very much doubt it. That may be the whole object of your phrase, but my phrase was finely tuned to the circumstances. V2.0 if you like.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:35:56 GMT
Let's not see you run away with the facts again nick. You do realise it's not a criminal offence don't you, therefore it's not a crime. It's also not a regular occurrence. No need for your over dramatisation of what's actually happening. With the amount of signage crt regales in installing, I'm somewhat surprised that they have not installed signs informing new boaters of the rules regarding passage for wide beams at blisworth tunnel. A lot of the shit stirring regarding this comes from the trip boat guy, who often likes to tell stories, which ultimately are more often than not proved unsubstantiated. Stoke bruerne does have an issue with boats and boat owners, and one or two players nearby do like to keep that going. I dunno, maybe there is a bylaw about fat boats through tunnels? Anyway, lots of things are a crime even though there isn’t a law against it. Your hats, to start with. But seriously, no I appreciate it isn’t a frequent occurrence but equally, you are being a drama queen about being so upset about receiving a letter. It’s all SO UNFAIR You don't half ramble on. Often not making any sense. I do hope I don't have your mind issues when I reach your age.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:51:25 GMT
I always wear silly hats. As far as I'm concerned anyone who wears silly hats is ok.
Jenlyn excepted obvs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 17:56:15 GMT
The whole object of the phrase is use of the word "bolt" to describe the horse. It's got nothing to do with boats or door securing hardware. ETA and it is improbable that a horse would have the required knowledge to open a door even if it was closed without a bolt. Specially an inward opening door type. I can't really remember the exact hardware used so it's possible you are correct but I very much doubt it. That may be the whole object of your phrase, but my phrase was finely tuned to the circumstances. V2.0 if you like. As long as you genuinely knew about the term "the horse has bolted" then it's okay. I had been worried that your education may have been lacking in this respect. I still think "bolting the door after the horse has bolted" would have been a better V2.0
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Post by Jim on Dec 3, 2019 17:57:31 GMT
Better than my first attempt which was bolting the horse after the stable door has left. My version is better. Stable doors have bolts. And have you seen how slowly fat boats move? That can hardly be called “bolting”! The whole object of the phrase is use of the word "bolt" to describe the horse. It's got nothing to do with boats or door securing hardware. ETA and it is improbable that a horse would have the required knowledge to open a door even if it was closed without a bolt. Specially an inward opening door type. I can't really remember the exact hardware used so it's possible you are correct but I very much doubt it. Wrong again, it's both. My Grandad had a dog called Blacksmith. Every time he kicked it it made a bolt for the door.
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