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Post by greenman on Mar 6, 2020 21:19:26 GMT
the cold beer store on the yoghurt pot is the bilge, the pie coolbox, as is the butter/milk/cheese store is a different part of the bilge. Works for me (and pubs with beer and pies are quite frequent on the ditches What if the boat isn't a boat? Many moons ago I encountered an object that looked like a fridge but in fact had some kind of evaporation unit / heat exchanger. It required regular top-ups of water but had no moving parts and needed no power source of any sort (except the sun). You couldn't have called the inside cold exactly, but it kept milk fresh for longer. A Coolgardie safe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:20:43 GMT
Really? You don't need a fridge? You mean - you won't die if you don't have a fridge? Hey everyone - you don't need a fridge! Far out. Thanks for the input. FYI It's not all about beer. You need pies too. Why waste fridge space on pies, you can get pies in tins. Fray Bentos 'aint wot it used to be.
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Post by greenman on Mar 6, 2020 21:22:48 GMT
Why waste fridge space on pies, you can get pies in tins. Fray Bentos 'aint wot it used to be. I know, we had one with no pastry top on it So basically just pie filling.
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Post by Jim on Mar 6, 2020 21:31:42 GMT
the cold beer store on the yoghurt pot is the bilge, the pie coolbox, as is the butter/milk/cheese store is a different part of the bilge. Works for me (and pubs with beer and pies are quite frequent on the ditches What if the boat isn't a boat? Many moons ago I encountered an object that looked like a fridge but in fact had some kind of evaporation unit / heat exchanger. It required regular top-ups of water but had no moving parts and needed no power source of any sort (except the sun). You couldn't have called the inside cold exactly, but it kept milk fresh for longer. Evaporation cooler, Easicool, to be found on fleabay now and again. They were fitted to early vw campers etc. www.gumtree.com/p/other-camping-hiking/easicool-evaporation-fridge-vintage-vw/1337565715I have a dometic compressor coolbox, draws 2ah when running. Big enough to keep milk etc fresh, beer cool. I have 450ah lead acid, 135w solar stick down panel with mppt controller. Outboard puts out 12ah. We can be river locked at Stanley Ferry for a week and be fine. Here's a though, I can see that the mppt controller would be fine for a lipo4 but when the outboard is going the volts shows 14.7, is that a problem?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:32:27 GMT
Is the air-horn necessary? Not but the air horn does not really impinge on internal space and uses minimal electrickery. Domestic appliances such as fridges and washing machines have been invented to make life more complicated.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 6, 2020 21:34:46 GMT
the cold beer store on the yoghurt pot is the bilge, the pie coolbox, as is the butter/milk/cheese store is a different part of the bilge. Works for me (and pubs with beer and pies are quite frequent on the ditches What if the boat isn't a boat? Many moons ago I encountered an object that looked like a fridge but in fact had some kind of evaporation unit / heat exchanger. It required regular top-ups of water but had no moving parts and needed no power source of any sort (except the sun). You couldn't have called the inside cold exactly, but it kept milk fresh for longer. As a child I remember my grandmother had an evaporation fridge like that ..... it was about 15" high 12" wide and about 12" deep I'm not sure what it was made of, it was some sort op porous material. There was a cup shaped hollow in the top that you kept topping up with water. Every summer for several weeks She would rent a tent on the beach at South Shields and spend virtually every day there and this "fridge would be lugged down there to keep the milk from going off and the butter from running away. She had done it for years and years, right back when she was a young woman and my mother was a child. my grandmother circa 1890 Nan at 21 by mudlarker, on Flickr my grandmother just visible centre top surrounded by some familly cousins nephews etc ...... the tent was always open house some time shortly after the first world war South Shields beach.top l to bott r Joe Walker Nan Hanson Bob Pascoe Fred Hanson John Hanson Roy Walker Lance Lodge Lilly Riddle Vera Hanson John Lodge by mudlarker, on Flickr
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:39:52 GMT
What if the boat isn't a boat? Many moons ago I encountered an object that looked like a fridge but in fact had some kind of evaporation unit / heat exchanger. It required regular top-ups of water but had no moving parts and needed no power source of any sort (except the sun). You couldn't have called the inside cold exactly, but it kept milk fresh for longer. when the outboard is going the volts shows 14.7, is that a problem? Isn't it true that, when testing a car battery, a multimeter will display in excess of 13 volts (maybe as much as 13.8v) when the engine is running? Also, whats the output of your solar panel (on average)?
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Post by phil70 on Mar 6, 2020 21:40:17 GMT
Is the air-horn necessary? Not but the air horn does not really impinge on internal space and uses minimal electrickery. Domestic appliances such as fridges and washing machines have been invented to make life more complicated. Not on a 60footer Phil
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Post by Jim on Mar 6, 2020 21:47:25 GMT
when the outboard is going the volts shows 14.7, is that a problem? Isn't it true that, when testing a car battery, a multimeter will display in excess of 13 volts (maybe as much as 13.8v) when the engine is running? Also, whats the output of your solar panel (on average)? I think it goes up above 14 at times, I don't readily see it, the battery volt meter is a bright red led panel I can see from the stern deck. My question is whether a lipo4 can take what the outboard puts out, unregulated. I think the mppt can be set to lipo4.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:50:08 GMT
Domestic appliances in any dwelling whether a shed or a mansion a dinghy or a superyacht are complicating the situation more than necessary.
People have been brainwashed to think that machines are a good thing. They actually aren't. They simply enslave humans and make them dependant on more and more machines.
It's a real problem. Cars are the worst example but domestic appliances are also enormously concerning.
Not much that can be done about it now as it is too ingrained into the psyche.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:51:45 GMT
Is the air-horn necessary? Not but the air horn does not really impinge on internal space and uses minimal electrickery. Domestic appliances such as fridges and washing machines have been invented to make life more complicated. There are words to describe what they achieve - colder and cleaner respectively. I guess its a matter of personal taste to evaluate their usefulness.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:56:17 GMT
Humans survived for thousands of years without them and now we have some problems.
This seems to not be a coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 21:57:47 GMT
Domestic appliances in any dwelling whether a shed or a mansion a dinghy or a superyacht are complicating the situation more than necessary. People have been brainwashed to think that machines are a good thing. They actually aren't. They simply enslave humans and make them dependant on more and more machines. It's a real problem. Cars are the worst example but domestic appliances are also enormously concerning. Not much that can be done about it now as it is too ingrained into the psyche. Yeah, cleaning and washing are so over-hyped.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 22:01:36 GMT
It's what causes all the problems.
It was bound to happen. The world is going to end in 27 years time and it's all because of Persil and their ilk.
It's disgraceful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 22:02:44 GMT
Isn't it true that, when testing a car battery, a multimeter will display in excess of 13 volts (maybe as much as 13.8v) when the engine is running? Also, whats the output of your solar panel (on average)? I think it goes up above 14 at times, I don't readily see it, the battery volt meter is a bright red led panel I can see from the stern deck. My question is whether a lipo4 can take what the outboard puts out, unregulated. I think the mppt can be set to lipo4. Given the price of Lipo I'd be leery of trying...that DC-DC charger I mentioned can apparently take raw DC and turn it into Lipo food. Any idea of the output of the solar panel in amps? I don't really trust the manufacturer's claims, I would have a bet it bears little relation to reality.
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