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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 8:25:42 GMT
Or maybe a little lithium pack dedicated to the heater - something you could put in your bag.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 8:28:31 GMT
Nope. Impossible in mid winter on a swinging mooring unless I buy a quiet genny too. Wind ? The few times we would actually go in winter compared to the cost of installing a decent heating system is a major drawback. The other option is one of those cheap Chinese diesel heater. At the moment we just stick a flowerpot on the cooker to take the chill off, but it's far from ideal. We have also been known to uses tea lights.... Sssshhhh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 8:33:48 GMT
I've used a miniature french wood burner with a flue slightly less than 2 inches diameter before now. The internal flue section was the next size up so the bit through the deck was the small size which sat inside the bigger pipe. It was ok but flue did block up quite readily. Ideally with solid fuel you want 65mm or more even on small stoves.
Specially if you burn wood.
I did the collar with a 76mm stainless steel exhaust flanged pipe plus a silicone ash tray with a small round hole in it as the flashing.
That worked quite well and another uncut silicone ash tray for the summer cap.
Fitted nice and snug over the collar.
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Post by brummieboy on Jan 27, 2020 20:56:36 GMT
The idea being to buy small bags of bbq charcoal. [ I seem to remember discussion elsewhere about this and it's quite dodgy to use barbecue charcoal on those heaters. High CO levels or something like that. The problem with CO off BBQ fuel is where BBQ's have been brought into the boat/tent/caravan for warmth, in much the same way that lit burner rings on the stove are. Any open flame of fossil fuels is a CO hazard. These heaters, like Refleks or any wood burner are flued to avoid this problem. (N.B. Pedant alert, I've not used the Oxford Comma )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 21:02:31 GMT
Yes I might have made that up on the spot like 99% of my posts on here but for some reason I think that barbecue charcoal is not the correct product for use on these heaters. It's probably ok. ETA there is something about charcoal and carbon monoxide. obviously all hydrocarbon fuels will form CO when burned but it seems that charcoal is special. Possibly something you don't particularly want to burn inside a small space with a very limited flue size. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal-burning_suicideI did notice the BS scheme asks for CO monitors now which was a good advance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 3:51:03 GMT
Yes I might have made that up on the spot like 99% of my posts on here but for some reason I think that barbecue charcoal is not the correct product for use on these heaters. It's probably ok. ETA there is something about charcoal and carbon monoxide. obviously all hydrocarbon fuels will form CO when burned but it seems that charcoal is special. Possibly something you don't particularly want to burn inside a small space with a very limited flue size. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal-burning_suicideI did notice the BS scheme asks for CO monitors now which was a good advance. Yes, CO monitors are a good idea and we have one fitted. It was a bit of a turn around for the BSS to add that onto their list as up to then it was all about third party risk (I.e to passers by or other boaters). I'm just hoping they aren't going to use the CO thing as an excuse to impose new silly unnecessary requirements.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:52:00 GMT
Yes I might have made that up on the spot like 99% of my posts on here but for some reason I think that barbecue charcoal is not the correct product for use on these heaters. It's probably ok. ETA there is something about charcoal and carbon monoxide. obviously all hydrocarbon fuels will form CO when burned but it seems that charcoal is special. Possibly something you don't particularly want to burn inside a small space with a very limited flue size. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charcoal-burning_suicideI did notice the BS scheme asks for CO monitors now which was a good advance. Yes, CO2 monitors are a good idea and we have one fitted. It was a bit of a turn around for the BSS to add that onto their list as up to then it was all about third party risk (I.e to passers by or other boaters). I'm just hoping they aren't going to use the CO2 thing as an excuse to impose new silly unnecessary requirements. I suspect you mean carbon monoxide (CO)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:56:23 GMT
It's funny how often people write CO2 instead of CO.
I've always had CO monitors anyway including 3 on the barge with digital displays. The displays are handy because they will give details of small ppm levels which while being below the alarm threshold may be interesting as an early warning of a partly blocked flue for example.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:58:29 GMT
I did once find a new sealed CO monitor in a charity shop. Curious so I looked it up and it turned out that it was a faulty device subjected to a manufacturer recall.
How irresponsible to take it to the charity shop knowing that it was dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 8:58:48 GMT
We have 2 with displays on the NB, and one on the yot. Tesco were selling them last week for £4.5.
I must admit, we stupidly lived without for the first 10 years on board.
It is a good thing they are now compulsory on BSS eligible boats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 9:00:16 GMT
I did once find a new sealed CO monitor in a charity shop. Curious so I looked it up and it turned out that it was a faulty device subjected to a manufacturer recall. How irresponsible to take it to the charity shop knowing that it was dangerous. Maybe they didn't know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 9:09:09 GMT
Yes, CO2 monitors are a good idea and we have one fitted. It was a bit of a turn around for the BSS to add that onto their list as up to then it was all about third party risk (I.e to passers by or other boaters). I'm just hoping they aren't going to use the CO2 thing as an excuse to impose new silly unnecessary requirements. I suspect you mean carbon monoxide (CO) Yes I meant CO, thanks.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 28, 2020 9:11:45 GMT
If the life of a CO monitoring unit / alarm is 7 years - where can you buy ones that still have 7 years left, ie. just manufactured? What is the point of buying one that was made 4 years ago? You've already lost 4 years and have only 3 remaining before it's time to send it to Malaysia for 'recycling'*.
*chucking it in the ocean.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 9:22:20 GMT
I wonder how many vacuum the sensor on a regular basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 9:24:11 GMT
If the life of a CO monitoring unit / alarm is 7 years - where can you buy ones that still have 7 years left, ie. just manufactured? What is the point of buying one that was made 4 years ago? You've already lost 4 years and have only 3 remaining before it's time to send it to Malaysia for 'recycling'*. *chucking it in the ocean. How about buying a parrot. When it keels over you know you have a CO problem. It's a green solution (other colours available) and lasts a lot longer than a PP3. Just don't try taking the dead one back to the shop...
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