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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 13:26:37 GMT
Simplest way to do a proper repair would be to leave the leafs, cut off the hinge part and replace the hinge with a bullet hinge. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174074061172Had to do mine this year, I prepped (hinges were to long for the leaf) and it took the welder less than half hour to fix them on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 18:32:05 GMT
I have a feeling that IKB wasn't being entirely serious.
Perhaps the hinges just needed an oil change...
I have a feeling nobody was being entirely serious. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 18:36:35 GMT
Simplest way to do a proper repair would be to leave the leafs, cut off the hinge part and replace the hinge with a bullet hinge. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174074061172Had to do mine this year, I prepped (hinges were to long for the leaf) and it took the welder less than half hour to fix them on I've had those seize and break off at the weld. Some of them have grease nipples on top but usually they don't. For the ones without nipples it is necessary to remove them and add oil of some sort now and then. In the case of a gas locker this would be a sideways movement assuming the original fitter knew to put them on in the same direction... If not lubricated occasionally then they are liable to fail at the welds. I don't like them at all myself the design is all wrong. ETA I should add the ones I had trouble with were only welded one side as they were vertical door hinges. With a gas locker hinge it may well be possible to weld both sides which would obviously be a lot more secure. Still don't like them though as they rely entirely on the weld quality. If it is off at all they are liable to bind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 19:01:34 GMT
Welding should be as strong as the original steel if done properly. Mine are now mounted so the lid can be slid off when open in order for the shaft to be greased. They were previously fitted so the lid couldn't be removed but lasted well over 20 years before one went. ETA mine broke the shaft not the weld as it was welded properly
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 23, 2020 19:33:15 GMT
I like them. Most of my hatches have them so they lift off which is handy for painting. The side hatches have grease nipples. Neat and tidy too. Top hatches are like the broken one but with nylon top hat inserts and caps and knock out stainless steel pins. If only the fitters had taken the trouble the hull builders did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 1:54:03 GMT
I've sorted those thanks now... not ideal but sturdy enough to do the job until I can get proper ones back on again... once they are primed and painted they'll blend in and in a few weeks I won't even notice them - ergo, this may be a LONG term solution lol I have to admit that would not have been my first choice but functional is much better than knackered. I would want to grind off the original hinges - a messy job, but the repair would be so much less obvious. As I was writing I began to wonder if a welder with a flair for the artistic could 'transplant' a steel hinge on top of the original metalwork (which I find aesthetically pleasing) having first ground off the pivots. The holes you have drilled to fit the stainless replacement could easily be filled at the same time. ETA I can see Loddon is way ahead of me.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 24, 2020 10:03:07 GMT
These hinges are normal small hinges underneath the ornate "D" bar, all welded together.
The easy and correct way is to undercut the D bar, both ends, destroying the hinge completely. A slitting disc will do the job. Into the resulting slot, insert a substantial stainless steel hinge and re-weld up both sides.
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Post by Jim on Feb 24, 2020 21:38:35 GMT
I've just used some large stainless hinges on my bow doors, with stainless bearings in them too. As used on heavy front doors. Also available in brass.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 21:41:53 GMT
The other approach is to just not have a hinged gas locker lid. Slice the remaining part off and leave it unhinged. In the infrequent occasions you need to change the bottle just take the whole lid off and place somewhere safe. I suppose that does depend on whether you require security for the gas bottles themselves. This was the option taken with my mum's boat when the hinges (same as quaysider hinges) broke I just cut off the overhanging parts with angel grinder and left it. No great hardship and no hinges to break.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Feb 25, 2020 12:23:57 GMT
If you have no hinges its terribly easy to flick the lid off and into the cut with the bow line. How do I know this? No one has a buoyant metal gas locker lid.
Why does a full gas bottle float?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 13:10:40 GMT
. Why doesΒ a full gas bottle float? Same reason a boat floats. What did the bow line get caught on? Gas locker lids are usually quite streamlined.
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