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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2020 9:20:10 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 3, 2020 9:33:23 GMT
Just had a newsletter from iwa, this is interesting. This is more interesting and just for you. Hail your new Leader!  |
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Post by peterboat on Feb 3, 2020 10:21:53 GMT
Interesting read Jim, they place far to much on Hydrogen as the fuel of the future, thats without mentioning the problem that it destroys metal so has a limited life due to fractures and leaks!! They did mention that its not green which is the understatement of the year made from fossil fuels its filthy stuff far better to just use diesel! As usual for the IWA its old info and out of date, like them a waste of space!
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2020 13:12:56 GMT
Hydrogen cracked from water using renewable or nuclear electrickery is the future, the anodes /cathodes are developing apace, using cheaper metals. It's a good way to store spare voles too. peterboat what's the electric boat assn? |
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2020 13:14:15 GMT
Just had a newsletter from iwa, this is interesting. This is more interesting and just for you. Hail your new Leader! Much as I hate and detest its use, the term Mong is right and fitting on this occasion. Anyway you are slacking in your role as mole. You should be providing us with the latest iwa news before the General public. I reckon your sitting down all day job is making you lazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 16:06:21 GMT
Can't read it it wants me to submit my details, where is it in real life? |
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Post by Jim on Feb 3, 2020 16:56:14 GMT
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Post by bodger on Feb 3, 2020 17:03:11 GMT
what's the electric boat assn? I joined EBA a few years ago and found little of interest in their online magazine or their fact sheets............. it seems to be almost dormant. |
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Post by peterboat on Feb 3, 2020 17:28:31 GMT
Hydrogen cracked from water using renewable or nuclear electrickery is the future, the anodes /cathodes are developing apace, using cheaper metals. It's a good way to store spare voles too. peterboat what's the electric boat assn? Its been on the go for many years, I used to be a member but it was dire and got stupid when I couldnt pay how they wanted me to! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 17:36:09 GMT
Hydrogen cracked from water using renewable or nuclear electrickery is the future, the anodes /cathodes are developing apace, using cheaper metals. It's a good way to store spare voles too. peterboat what's the electric boat assn? Being deeply suspicious of new things until shouted at by them claiming to know better I humbly suggest that, in the long term, burning the water is a bad idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 17:37:52 GMT
"Much as I hate and detest its use, the term Mong is right and fitting on this occasion." There speaks a man of principle Jim. I'm sorry but it's either right or wrong. I have admired and supported your protests against its use in the past ... and I get the intended humour. But using the term when it suits you disqualifies future protests don't you think ? Besides blubbery, blonde, buffoon seems more appropriate. Rog |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 17:45:58 GMT
This is more interesting and just for you. Hail your new Leader! Much as I hate and detest its use, the term Mong is right and fitting on this occasion. Anyway you are slacking in your role as mole. You should be providing us with the latest iwa news before the General public. I reckon your sitting down all day job is making you lazy. You really are an eejit aren't you. Practice what you preach, muppet. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 17:49:03 GMT
This copied from narrowboatworld sums up the ill thought out and unrealistic nonsense from the "I wank a lots".
[THE urge by the Inland Waterways Association to replace diesel with electric propulsion for boats has overlooked a very salient point.
That unlike vehicles that only need power when in motion, boats consume power for a variety of essential purposes when moored, power that is usually provided by the alternator(s) when the boat is cruising. Or occasionally solar panels and the hope the sun is shining.
No automatic charging
Alas, with electric propulsion there would no longer be automatic charging when the boat is cruising, so boats would need their batteries charged at a power point very often indeed, even daily.
With the 'down' on solid fuel stoves many boats have diesel powered heaters, that rather nullifies the whole policy, and also of course requires battery power to operate.
Diesel-electric power plant
Or perhaps the IWA believe that the solution would be installing a combined diesel-electric power plant, switching to diesel when the batteries fail, but the cost of these would be astronomical and a severe blow to the already struggling boat building industry.
But whatever, 'going electric' would mean hundreds of charging points and fairly close together, with power having to be brought to the remote waterways from distance sources at huge cost, and just how many would be needed?
It can only result in boaters having no alternative but to use generators to charge their batteries, that rather nullifies the whole purpose].
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Post by peterboat on Feb 3, 2020 18:39:38 GMT
This copied from narrowboatworld sums up the ill thought out and unrealistic nonsense from the "I wank a lots". [THE urge by the Inland Waterways Association to replace diesel with electric propulsion for boats has overlooked a very salient point. That unlike vehicles that only need power when in motion, boats consume power for a variety of essential purposes when moored, power that is usually provided by the alternator(s) when the boat is cruising. Or occasionally solar panels and the hope the sun is shining. No automatic charging Alas, with electric propulsion there would no longer be automatic charging when the boat is cruising, so boats would need their batteries charged at a power point very often indeed, even daily. With the 'down' on solid fuel stoves many boats have diesel powered heaters, that rather nullifies the whole policy, and also of course requires battery power to operate. Diesel-electric power plant Or perhaps the IWA believe that the solution would be installing a combined diesel-electric power plant, switching to diesel when the batteries fail, but the cost of these would be astronomical and a severe blow to the already struggling boat building industry. But whatever, 'going electric' would mean hundreds of charging points and fairly close together, with power having to be brought to the remote waterways from distance sources at huge cost, and just how many would be needed? It can only result in boaters having no alternative but to use generators to charge their batteries, that rather nullifies the whole purpose]. I was out in my boat this weekend ,not far about an hour each way and for me it wasnt an issue, as my battery bank is very large [10 hours cruising without solar] so it works for me. Now not everybody has the money and skill sets to do what I have done and that is the problem, DIY its affordable paying somebody not really. Now if all new boats went range extender it would work and be cleaner than what we have now. Diesel or LPG generators running under load can run equipment to clean up emissions, something that a diesel pushing a boat along cant do, with addition of a large solar array the Generator in summer would be more off than on. So we have to look at this in the long term their is no quick fix, Hydrogen is a non starter [car sales in the USA are dropping] and its really expensive, so say fro next year all boats made are range extenders, eventually something better will come along and the problem will maybe sorted who knows? Not the IWA that is for sure |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 20:11:24 GMT
CRT are not going to install hook up points.
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