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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 15, 2020 9:44:31 GMT
"Britain is in talks with China as Beijing's state-owned railway firm offers to build a cheaper, faster HS2 service in just five years" "Beijing claimed it could build line by 2025 for less money and with faster trains Department for Transport confirmed preliminary discussions were under way" "Try doing away with half the mandarins we have in Whitehall and a lot of red tape then we brits could probably build it in five years and at a lot less cost than predicted." "How can Britain survive as an independent nation when this country is apparently incapable of building its own infrastructure?" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8006367/Britain-talks-China-giving-Beijings-state-owned-railway-builder-role-building-HS2.html
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 15, 2020 9:47:16 GMT
The trouble with this is that there are bound to be communication problems because there aren't any telephones in China.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 11:08:53 GMT
Would be interesting to see the proposal.
Are the savings in money and time due to expertise or due to over riding the UKs property/environmental/safety/employment/immigration laws?
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2020 11:33:40 GMT
www.history.com/.amp/news/transcontinental-railroad-chinese-immigrantsThey toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 15, 2020 12:13:21 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 15, 2020 12:19:26 GMT
www.history.com/.amp/news/transcontinental-railroad-chinese-immigrantsThey toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history. In some ways it's Karma coming to bite the western nations on their bums. The Chinese have been treated appallingly throughout history, including this sordid episode: "The experience of the Chinese in Truckee is merely a microcosm of the attitudes that generally prevailed in the state. Violent prejudice developed in the mid-1870s as a post Civil War depression hit the nation. Up and down the Pacific Coast, the Chinese became the scapegoats and were blamed for depriving white laborers of their jobs. On Sunday morning, June 18, 1876, shortly after midnight, seven armed white men silently set out from C.W. Humphrey’s Saloon and followed the old trail north along Trout Creek which led to two small cabins about one and a half miles northwest of Truckee, near today’s Tahoe Donner subdivision. Sleeping inside the cabins was a crew of six Chinese woodcutters who had been hired by Joseph Gray to cut wood and gather firewood. Earlier that week, the workers had been warned by the same men to stop their work and leave town. The warnings may not have been understood and were not heeded. At approximately one o’clock a.m., the gunmen surrounded one of the cabins. Two men poured coal tar onto the roof and lit it on fire, then took cover and waited. Within a minute or two, several terrified workers ran out of the cabins and began throwing water on the fire. Without warning, the perpetrators opened up on them with their weapons. One Chinese worker, Ah Ling, was immediately shot, receiving a full charge in the left side of his abdomen. Several others were wounded before realizing they were being fired upon. The terrified woodcutters fled into the woods and hid until daybreak. Eleven shots were fired and the cabin was burned to ashes." www.truckeehistory.org/the-trout-creek-outrage.html#
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 15, 2020 12:34:54 GMT
www.history.com/.amp/news/transcontinental-railroad-chinese-immigrantsThey toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history. In some ways it's Karma coming to bite the western nations on their bums. The Chinese have been treated appallingly throughout history, including this sordid episode: "The experience of the Chinese in Truckee is merely a microcosm of the attitudes that generally prevailed in the state. Violent prejudice developed in the mid-1870s as a post Civil War depression hit the nation. Up and down the Pacific Coast, the Chinese became the scapegoats and were blamed for depriving white laborers of their jobs. On Sunday morning, June 18, 1876, shortly after midnight, seven armed white men silently set out from C.W. Humphrey’s Saloon and followed the old trail north along Trout Creek which led to two small cabins about one and a half miles northwest of Truckee, near today’s Tahoe Donner subdivision. Sleeping inside the cabins was a crew of six Chinese woodcutters who had been hired by Joseph Gray to cut wood and gather firewood. Earlier that week, the workers had been warned by the same men to stop their work and leave town. The warnings may not have been understood and were not heeded. At approximately one o’clock a.m., the gunmen surrounded one of the cabins. Two men poured coal tar onto the roof and lit it on fire, then took cover and waited. Within a minute or two, several terrified workers ran out of the cabins and began throwing water on the fire. Without warning, the perpetrators opened up on them with their weapons. One Chinese worker, Ah Ling, was immediately shot, receiving a full charge in the left side of his abdomen. Several others were wounded before realizing they were being fired upon. The terrified woodcutters fled into the woods and hid until daybreak. Eleven shots were fired and the cabin was burned to ashes." www.truckeehistory.org/the-trout-creek-outrage.html#Can't help feeling this one was rather unfortunately named... "Only one of the woodcutters, Ah Fook, spoke English"
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Post by bodger on Feb 15, 2020 13:01:16 GMT
reminds me of Deadwood (TV gold rush drama series)
the local butcher was a Chinaman who spoke no English but happily arranged for surplus bodies (often the result of the hotel-keeper shooting undesirables) to be thrown into his pig pen at night to fatten up the residents before they too were slaughtered.
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Post by kris on Feb 15, 2020 15:49:34 GMT
This is a good idea. Import some even cheaper Chinese labour now that we’ve left Europe.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 18:16:41 GMT
MTR 'operator' (ha ha) of Crossrail
The Germans have a bit of a stack in the (very late) signalling system as well.
Fill your boots Foxy! Sino/German pact....
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