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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 11:07:13 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 15:48:55 GMT
Bodger just might lend a little credibility to his borrowed arguments were he to answer the above question - posted yesterday on page 17 - instead of trying to divert attention from the nominated subject of this thread and onto climate change instead ! The question of climate change is something of an irrelevance*, . . the human race can't do anything which will have an immediate and noticeable effect on it. Dredging out shoaling areas of rivers, on the other hand, is something over which we have total and immediate control, and it's beneficial effects can be enjoyed shortly after the next Atlantic storm front arrives over our shores. *piffle perhaps one decade of data isn't enough for a more satisfying conclusion 10 years? Not really. Try 50 million years and you'd be getting close to a starting point for analysis. The Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old. That's four thousand, five hundred million years. And we're judging 'climate change' in a thousandth of a blink of an eye?
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 15:52:37 GMT
But do you believe climate change is also partially being affected by humans? Or do you think that we can continue to pollute our atmosphere without any consequences to the climate? Of course we need to keep dredging, that's a no brainer. Its us we have tipped the balance burning millions if not billions of fossil fuels daily! I put 135 litres of diesel into my bus this afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 15:53:58 GMT
perhaps one decade of data isn't enough for a more satisfying conclusion 10 years? Not really. Try 50 million years and you'd be getting close to a starting point for analysis. The Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old. That's four thousand, five hundred million years. And we're judging 'climate change' in a thousandth of a blink of an eye? Boris (and the idiot over the pond) says all decisions will be based upon science. So how long is a thousandth of a blink of an eye in relation to 10 yrs or when Humans evolved/were created?
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 15:56:11 GMT
nemesis I would certainly agree with your conclusion that we have had a hell of a lot of rain and it has shown that either the estimates of once in a hundred year allowance is either out (although it is worth remembering that a once in a hundred year event can happen two years on the trot ...... that's just the way uncertainties balance out) or the flood control measures presently in place are inadequate (whatever the reason for the increase.) Another pretty incontrovertible point is that dredging has been sporadic at best over the last 50/60 years and very much reduced for the last 20 years. I personally would accept the view that dredging is not the answer in all catchments Jim Riley comments about bring back beavers actually does make sense for upland areas as their damns dams provide effective flood plain management. Not really a practical solution where the flood plains have been built on or walled off. behind flood defences. However in certain areas it would seem that if you cannot allow the water to spread out over a flood plain you need to provide a route for the water to flow away as fast as possible. To my mind the only way is to provide a deep wide river channel with only sufficient weed banks to limit erosion (again sometimes an unavoidable result of increased flow rates) I fail to see how simply increasing the height of flood defences is the complete answer. I fail to see how this is more effective at improving drainage than deepening and widening the channel. edited because of rude language I found no posts concerning the heartfelt and pressing issue of dredging to improve the plight of those whose homes have been devastated, or how the failure to dredge was a remarkably short-sighted policy on the part of the EA or CaRT in connection with the current issue of flooding
I have seen a few. I think your real name is Richard Parry and you are just trying to save a few more pennies for your next top-of-the-range Merc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 15:57:54 GMT
perhaps one decade of data isn't enough for a more satisfying conclusion 10 years? Not really. Try 50 million years and you'd be getting close to a starting point for analysis. The Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old. That's four thousand, five hundred million years. And we're judging 'climate change' in a thousandth of a blink of an eye? Righto, lets wait fifty million years before making a decision. Come to think of it, it was going to be that long before this thread came to a consensus anyway.
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Post by Jim on Mar 3, 2020 15:58:33 GMT
Its us we have tipped the balance burning millions if not billions of fossil fuels daily! I put 135 litres of diesel into my bus this afternoon. I hope you got the points on your Tesco card.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
Its us we have tipped the balance burning millions if not billions of fossil fuels daily! The vegetation and sea cant sort out the CO2 as fast as we produce it! Maybe coronaviris has been sent by the earth to thin us out to manageable levels? I have tried to clean up my act as much as possible, and all my local trips are done in my electric truck, all being equal my electric car will be up and running this year, my boat is electric, but I say this honestly for the most I get told it cant and doesnt work! The fact it does escapes people, anyway rant over and onwards and upwards As you know I recently added to the carbon footprint with my holiday to Iceland! Thanks for destroying the planet for my grandchildren! I shall have to counter-attack! ps - that would be a great thing to have inscribed on one's gravestone.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 15:59:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 16:00:30 GMT
I found no posts concerning the heartfelt and pressing issue of dredging to improve the plight of those whose homes have been devastated, or how the failure to dredge was a remarkably short-sighted policy on the part of the EA or CaRT in connection with the current issue of flooding
I have seen a few. I think your real name is Richard Parry and you are just trying to save a few more pennies for your next top-of-the-range Merc. And I think your real name is Mutley.
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Post by Jim on Mar 3, 2020 16:01:34 GMT
10 years? Not really. Try 50 million years and you'd be getting close to a starting point for analysis. The Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old. That's four thousand, five hundred million years. And we're judging 'climate change' in a thousandth of a blink of an eye? Righto, lets wait fifty million years before making a decision. Come to think of it, it was going to be that long before this thread came to a consensus anyway. We'll reach a concensus when the old deniers are boxed up and burnt on their longships, the young (at heart) will then be the majority. Here's a thought, we can rejoin the EU too. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Jim on Mar 3, 2020 16:03:30 GMT
I have seen a few. I think your real name is Richard Parry and you are just trying to save a few more pennies for your next top-of-the-range Merc. And I think your real name is Mutley.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 16:05:20 GMT
10 years? Not really. Try 50 million years and you'd be getting close to a starting point for analysis. The Earth is 4,500,000,000 years old. That's four thousand, five hundred million years. And we're judging 'climate change' in a thousandth of a blink of an eye? Righto, lets wait fifty million years before making a decision. Come to think of it, it was going to be that long before this thread came to a consensus anyway. let's
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 3, 2020 16:14:12 GMT
Righto, lets wait fifty million years before making a decision. Come to think of it, it was going to be that long before this thread came to a consensus anyway. Here's a thought, we can rejoin the EU too. 😂😂😂😂 I think it's going down the drain quickly now, without the Danegeld from the UK: " Austria says Turkey is 'attacking the EU and Greece' by opening its borders to refugees and warns: 'If the EU's outer borders don't work then Europe without inner borders is history' " "More than 24,000 migrants have tried to cross into Greece since Saturday night, border guards have said" Just what Todmorden needs - another seven Turkish barber shops. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8069239/Austria-says-Turkey-attacking-EU-Greece-opening-borders.html
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