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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 8:30:53 GMT
I have something positive to say.
3701 out of 3711 passengers/crew of the cruise ship Diamond Princess are alive (99.7%). This is despite 634 being tested positive, the average age of the passengers being 69, and all being crammed in together for weeks with little social distancing.
However you rarely see our press (in particular the BBC) report in a balanced way, no they are too busy with sensationalism and treating deaths like some kind of race. I just hope they realise they are partially responsible for damaging the mental health of millions and the potential suicides which go with it.
So finishing on some more positive bias. Boris said a week or so ago that we may lose around 20,000 to this virus. That wouid be very sad, but as over 500,000 die each year in the UK each year anyway, that would only be an increase of 4%.
So yes, lets be careful guys and adopt some common sense, but don't let the buggers get you down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 8:31:33 GMT
Oh...and the sun is still shining so enjoy it!
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Post by ianali on Mar 26, 2020 8:32:44 GMT
It has to be said, the spring is bringing a huge ray of hope into our lives and helping to keep any concerns in perspective. We had to visit town for some essentials yesterday ... it was utterly deserted and looked stunning in the sunshine. We can cross roads, without taking our life in our hands as there are so few cars, and the spring planting is just beginning to look gorgeous. Our 41st anniversary tomorrow so we have to decide ... slap up meal out ... night in a posh restaurant ... or romantic meal in I'll not bother with a poll . Rog 41 years.. it will never lastπ. This will be one of the years we will all remember I expect. I bet you will enjoy the romantic meal in, more than you would have enjoyed a posh meal out... Not ! Congratulations on such a milestone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 8:47:45 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Mar 26, 2020 8:47:53 GMT
Oh...and the sun is still shining so enjoy it! ha!!! (my back is still fairly bad although improving slowly so the only sunshine I eill get is through the skylight) signed Mr Grumpy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 8:55:54 GMT
Keep taking the tablets JohnV ... it'll be right by weekend (I didn't say which) ) In 2001 we were due out on our share boat for a week, to coincide with our anniversary ... foot & mouth put an end to that. All things must pass ... and I mean the isolation ... not the marriage Rog
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 26, 2020 9:05:32 GMT
That's a bit technical for me, but one thing I noticed was this which must have been the action that stopped the spread on the boat. I read this as they tested everyone, then symptoms or not anyone positive was whisked off the ship. The last sentence could be read as they have no idea whether these people lived or died because once in Japan they were just another patient among that population. This is just one sentence from one paragraph explaining the basis of the figures in the report. I'm not knocking it or you, it was interesting reading as far as I understood it. Thanks for posting. Soon after identification of the first infections, both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases were transported to designated medical facilities specialised in infectious diseases in Japan. However, these patients were treated as external (imported) cases, and a detailed description of their clinical progression is not publicly available.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 9:07:48 GMT
Oh...and the sun is still shining so enjoy it! ha!!!Β Β (my back is still fairly bad although improving slowly so the only sunshine I eill get is through the skylight)Β signed Mr Grumpy Ah, yes, I did read that earlier John. I'm really sorry about that and hope you recover soon. About 10 years ago I had severe back pain for over a year. It was actually a physio who helped me in the end. She explained that much of the problem is that many of us don't exercise the muscles which run down the middle of our backs. It's quite a difficult exercise to master but it's a bit like pelvic thrust except that you are trying to contract the muscles alongside your spine. The idea is that most of the weight should be transferred through these muscles rather than our spine (where discs may have shifted). I think the muscles, when they are stronger, also help to push the discs back in place. I'm not sure if that will help John as I don't know your full symptoms and I am no expert. Just to say it worked for me. I would imagine Mr Stabby has a healthy back with all of the pelvic thrusting he does...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 9:18:00 GMT
That's a bit technical for me, but one thing I noticed was this which must have been the action that stopped the spread on the boat. I read this as they tested everyone, then symptoms or not anyone positive was whisked off the ship. The last sentence could be read as they have no idea whether these people lived or died because once in Japan they were just another patient among that population. This is just one sentence from one paragraph explaining the basis of the figures in the report. I'm not knocking it or you, it was interesting reading as far as I understood it. Thanks for posting. Soon after identification of the first infections, both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases were transported to designated medical facilities specialised in infectious diseases in Japan. However, these patients were treated as external (imported) cases, and a detailed description of their clinical progression is not publicly available.Well of course there will be unknowns, however this paper is about as close to raw data that we will get. Another positive worth noting, quite a high percentage can get the virus but show no symptoms. If does mean however it can spread if people fail to adopt social distancing simply because they don't think they have it or think others don't have it.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 26, 2020 9:18:40 GMT
But anyway, it's another beautiful day in this temporarily quiet world. Every cloud has a silver lining. Short walk this morning I was reminded of the tranquillity to be had if you can get far away from road noise. Usually there's somebody somewhere, either CRT contractor on the canal or a marina bod repeatedly revving a strimmer seems like every day all summer long and that's now stopped too. Yey! Meanwhile there are 4 crews of CRT contractors in huge vans closing one lock. I expect they gathered first thing (it was 7am) to work out a plan of how to do it - they are in for a surprise, all the locks on the Rufford branch are different in one way or another, it's part of the fun.
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Post by ianali on Mar 26, 2020 9:19:13 GMT
ha!!!Β Β (my back is still fairly bad although improving slowly so the only sunshine I eill get is through the skylight)Β signed Mr Grumpy Ah, yes, I did read that earlier John. I'm really sorry about that and hope you recover soon. About 10 years ago I had severe back pain for over a year. It was actually a physio who helped me in the end. She explained that much of the problem is that many of us don't exercise the muscles which run down the middle of our backs. It's quite a difficult exercise to master but it's a bit like pelvic thrust except that you are trying to contract the muscles alongside your spine. The idea is that most of the weight should be transferred through these muscles rather than our spine (where discs may have shifted). I think the muscles, when they are stronger, also help to push the discs back in place. I'm not sure if that will help John as I don't know your full symptoms and I am no expert. Just to say it worked for me. I would imagine Mr Stabby has a healthy back with all of the pelvic thrusting he does... Thanks for that. Images in my mind that will far outlast the virus! Iβm picturing all the thunderboaters now doing this exercise. Just to make it worse the last people I met from here were Quaysider and Nick and Jeff βΉοΈ
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Post by Jim on Mar 26, 2020 9:23:24 GMT
MOTs extended by 6 months! Due mid April. I don't have to fix the brakes now. Are CRT going to do the same for the BSS, no excuse now.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 26, 2020 9:31:51 GMT
Core muscles, it works for me too and fortunately is quite habit forming - once I started doing it I've never forgotten because it's kind of enjoyable when you've cracked it. A nurse saved me from a planned neck operation by telling me how to sit and stand up straight. She said "concentrate on keeping the bit between your shoulder blades straight and the rest will sort itself out". I'm even doing that now as I lounge on my bed typing. Another addictive "exercise" for me. Feels good.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 26, 2020 9:35:00 GMT
MOTs extended by 6 months! Due mid April. I don't have to fix the brakes now. Are CRT going to do the same for the BSS, no excuse now. I think they know they have to, but are stalling while talking to insurers. I think they could just change their licence rules and the whole problem would go away. Both entities want their arses covered obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 9:36:15 GMT
Core strength ... just finished my daily stretches and exercises ... can't run these days but I can keep my back moving by doing these.
Becomes a morning routine (put onto them by a physio in 2000).
Rog
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