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Post by kris on Sept 8, 2016 19:26:24 GMT
how the fuck did we get to the point were every supermarket and decaying ex filing station is occupied by a gang of Eastern European car washers??!! Tony Blair. new labour and tony Blair have definately got a lot to answer for. Gordon brown being the chancellor for all that time. ( he sold all the countries Gold for knock down prices remember. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 8, 2016 19:38:35 GMT
If I was the OP, I'd be a bit more bothered about things like wealthy Tory landowner Iain Duncan Smith claiming hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in eu farm subsidies than some bloke in a bedsit getting £72 a week in dole money.
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Post by kris on Sept 8, 2016 19:39:26 GMT
It's just too easy to kick the people at the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:40:29 GMT
how the fuck did we get to the point were every supermarket and decaying ex filing station is occupied by a gang of Eastern European car washers??!! Tony Blair. Fred Dibnah had it right, much earlier than the Blair/New Labour project. "We've become a nation of con men, living by selling double glazing to each other" I won't give the bastards a penny, preferring to clean my own motors rather than let some fuckwit scratch it  |
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Post by Ssscrudddy on Feb 2, 2017 9:50:57 GMT
Should the DWP bring in a scheme where people claiming JSA etc should be forced to 'earn' their benefits?
There's nothing pisses me off more than hearing these people saying things along the lines of 'oh tomorrow's payday' or 'I'll just go the cash machine to get my wages' on benefits day
Schemes could be run with a senior foreman with a crew of 'workers' doing good, much needed work in their communities and in return they get their allowance paid. A register system could be used, as in full time employment, with a days wage deducted for every day of 'no show' plus 4 weeks holiday given per annum....just like real work!
In return, people with no qualifications, skills or experience would gain an excellent addition to their CV, it would teach them valuable work ethics plus puts 'something back' into society that's sadly missing nowadays.
Just looking at our current decrepit canal system , there's plenty of work these people could do to help out, towpath maintenance, assisting with dredging, general upkeep of facilities etc to help society in general, who, in turn, are helping the claimers by funding their lifestyle (often choice!!)
So what do you think...is it a go-er??
(Post checked as good as humanly possible for spelling / grammatical mistakes in order to appease our resident pedantic, pongy, apparent dyslexia suffering fuckwit!) Have you been living under a rock? This already happens (despite the fact in Nov 2015 they announced they would stop the scheme, they lied, or rather they didnt lie they just changed the name). To get your £70 per week you have to work 30 hours per week (4 days per week, & day 5 isnt your own because that has to be spent jumping through all the other hoops at the job centre & various 'training providers'). At minimum wage from when you posted (not the new fake living wage) you would get paid £210 pw for those hours, & you would get 28 days paid holiday. On the dole you only £70pw & 14 days holiday. But there are many get out clauses as to why you wont get your £70 pw. They are called sanctions. 1st offence = no money at all for 1 month. 2nd offence no money for 6 months. 3rd offence no money for 3 years. If you do get sanctioned you can appeal it, as long as you appeal within 14 days. But they dont tell you you have been sanctioned until at least 14 days after they have done it, usually 1 month after they apply the sanction, & then they backdate the letter. Reasons for getting sanctioned. You're at your job centre appointment on time, but the job centre advisor is late, you get sanctioned. Your workfare coincides with your signing on time slot, guaranteed sanction, because whichever 1 you go to means you didnt go to the other 1. Sanctioned. You go for a job interview, you get sanctioned. You ask to book 1 of your 14 days holiday, you get sanctioned, & marked down as having taken 6 days holiday despite not getting any holiday at all & not missing any appointments. Your job centre advisor hasnt sanctioned enough people that week & is told they have to meet their sanction targets (which btw is 80%) or face disciplinary action, if they dont like you, you get sanctioned for no reason at all. Of course there are the obvious reasons for getting sanctioned, being 30 seconds late for any appointments (signing on, workfare job etc), not showing up at all for the appointment no matter what the reason (eg being found unconscious & taken to hospital having suffered a PE isnt an acceptable reason for being late or not showing up) Not applying for a specific job they tell you to apply for (even if you did apply for it & can prove it, or you didnt apply because you dont meet the requirements eg must have degree but dont have a degree). Not being contactable by phone or email, sanctioned. Of course once sanctioned you then dont have the money to pay for phone or internet so this is just an automatic ongoing repeat sanction. Other things you are not allowed to do whilst on the dole, leave town (but you are required to travel 3 hours each direction to look for work), study - get caught studying & you're sanctioned. You can take a security guard course paid for by the dole, but they wont let you actually get the licence even if you pass until you have a guaranteed job offer, which they wont offer the job unless you already have the licence, & you musnt miss any of your workfare or dole appointments whilst doing it Now it sounds great when they say these workfare placements are for 'Social Projects' but realistically that can mean anything. Volunteering for CaRT doesnt count, it has to be 1 they send you to. The vast majority of these social projects are ran by for-profit PLCs, many of which dont pay their taxes. A classic example G4S. I'm not even allowed to name the 'charity' I had to do workfare for, when I was on the dole, they werent a charity but a for-profit PLC, & I have an injunction against me mentioning them because I named them too many times & they found it embarrassing. If I name them I go to prison. & for the record whilst I was there I saw 3 paid full timers replaced with 4 unpaid free doleworkers, that doesnt include the paid worker that I replaced at no cost to the company. & now part timers beware if you get any kind of government money, because there are plans to extend this to you guys in the next few months. If you dont work full time & get any kind of government assistance, or you are in low paid work & get government assistance, you will soon be rquired to jump through all the same hoops. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 3, 2017 17:18:11 GMT
That doesn't sound great. On the other hand:
If you rock up from Poland with a couple of kids and only the clothes on your and your family's back you will immediately be given accommodation, free of charge. If the place is unfurnished don't worry, the government will buy you a nice set. If you choose not to work, don't worry, you'll get up to 7 times what the chap who has been sanctioned gets, up to the benefit cap. Don't worry about sanctions, none exist. Get yourself a little part time job, you can then declare that you have a further 6 kids, who live with your mother in Krakow. You can now receive family allowance and tax credits for each of them, as any amount of work leads to the benefit cap being lifted. Hell, you can even receive childcare costs for the time that you spend cleaning toilets.
It would appear that this balance isn't quite right, just now.
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Post by Andyberg on Feb 3, 2017 19:55:43 GMT
On the other hand: If you rock up from Poland Reassuring local news tonight.... The polish feckers even get all inclusive accommodation!!! *********************************** ONE of Poland’s most wanted offenders has been arrested after an operation by Lancashire Constabulary. Marian Dorobek, 68, was arrested on Wednesday (February 1st). The constabulary received information that he was on a ferry that was due to arrive at Heysham Port at 12.15pm. This gave us very limited notice of the impending arrival and checks with the National Crime Agency and Polish authorities confirmed that he was wanted and that a European Arrest Warrant was being applied for. An operation was quickly put in place to arrest Dorobek, who was wanted in Poland after being convicted of rape and child sex offences, was arrested on leaving the ferry under Section 5 of the Extradition Act 2003 as the European Arrest Warrant had not arrived. This is the first use of Section 5 within Lancashire. Dorobek has been transferred to HMP Wandsworth and will appear at Westminster Magistrates Court where Lancashire officers will be instructed to complete the extradition of Dorobek to Poland. The Polish Government has emailed the constabulary praising and thanking them for their swift intervention and support. socsi.in/YZLa9 |
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