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Post by metanoia on Mar 27, 2020 21:07:12 GMT
"We’ve put up hundreds of posters across the network asking people to avoid moored boats, and have made the poster available online, so boaters can print it off and display it in their windows. Around 1,800 have been downloaded – thank you to all those who have helped – if you haven’t done already, you can print off the poster here.
Please help us communicate this information, but under no circumstances should anyone place obstructions on towpaths. Towpaths are not closed, but we are asking others to behave with consideration for boaters who may be self-isolating, discouraging the use of the towpath where boats are moored. If people do approach your boat, there should be no risk to you provided you stay on your boat while they pass; please do not put yourself or others at risk by confronting other people."
eta Damian's newsletter
Was this a proper press release - has anyone who doesn't pay a boat licence know (never mind care)?
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Post by Trina on Mar 27, 2020 21:09:27 GMT
It really shouldn't be that difficult should it ? Sigh 😔.xx
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Post by metanoia on Mar 27, 2020 21:13:52 GMT
Anyone seen one of these yet? Never seen or heard of these until Demion's newsletter.
Must have had more than a hundred walking, cycling, sweating and spitting past my boat yesterday - moored more out of the way, at least couple of miles from any town.
Can't print this off as the public libraries are closed.
Don't move - yet an award winning marina charged my friend £5 for drinking water this week.
Keep safe - if you possibly can!!!!
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Post by metanoia on Mar 27, 2020 21:15:44 GMT
It really shouldn't be that difficult should it ? Sigh 😔.xx No, it shouldn't x
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Post by bills on Mar 27, 2020 21:49:32 GMT
Don't move - yet an award winning marina charged my friend £5 for drinking water this week. I think I would have used the fiver to stifle my cough before I offered to hand it over.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 27, 2020 22:35:39 GMT
It's all just complete and total bollocks. It's just a strain of Winter flu which has killed no more than previous Winter flu outbreaks. All-cause mortality rates in Europe and Italy are at or below average levels for this time of year. swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/It is all just a mental hysteria.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 22:44:17 GMT
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 27, 2020 23:47:18 GMT
I live aboard, I don't see how people walking or cycling past my boat pose any risk to me whatsoever. People are allowed to exercise, the towpath is as good a place as any. I won't be putting any signs up, I'll carry on chatting to people walking their dogs etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 0:00:37 GMT
It's all just complete and total bollocks. It's just a strain of Winter flu which has killed no more than previous Winter flu outbreaks. All-cause mortality rates in Europe and Italy are at or below average levels for this time of year. swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/It is all just a mental hysteria. That paper in your link pretty much matches many of my thoughts. I think I read somewhere that roughly 1500 people die every day in this country. If we saw figures way and above this, it might show the additional effect C19 has had. What really pisses me off is how the BBC sensationalise the headlines by saying things like "...died from COVID -19" when they should be saying that COVID-19 was found in their body when tested. Obviously having a virus in your system alongside a pre existing condition isn't going to help, but many of these people may have died anyway if not a bit later. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the population will have C19 in their system soon (as is the case with many cold viruses), if that's the case then eventually most people who have died with C19 in their system will be added to the statistic even though it wasn't the main cause of death. Meanwhile the BBC will probably report that millions of people died from COVID-19. Having said all of that, it is probably wise for our government to be cautious, but maybe they should have done that a few weeks earlier if they really believed there was a serious risk. ....and another thing. How many people are going to die as a result of sensationalist reporting? Depression, anxiety and panic kill people, I wonder if the media will be called to account for that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 0:08:27 GMT
I live aboard, I don't see how people walking or cycling past my boat pose any risk to me whatsoever. People are allowed to exercise, the towpath is as good a place as any. I won't be putting any signs up, I'll carry on chatting to people walking their dogs etc. I agree, I don't think it would be wise for boaters to alienate the public, especially at the moment.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 28, 2020 1:46:29 GMT
I live aboard, I don't see how people walking or cycling past my boat pose any risk to me whatsoever. People are allowed to exercise, the towpath is as good a place as any. I won't be putting any signs up, I'll carry on chatting to people walking their dogs etc. Not being a live aboard I'm going to sit on the fence. I am seeing so many hysterical posts on face book by boaters because someone dared walk down a towpath. Were being told to exercise locally and not travel so people will walk on their local towpath. I'm with you there is not much difference to someone walking down a pavement with windows backing onto it than to towpath. None of these social media posts suggest that they might be boaters walking back to their boats. It's got as far as K&A K&A boaters going to the media. I know it's very serious and people are doing their bit, but is a bit too much hysteria. Not that I am suggesting there is here. There is a need for balance.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 28, 2020 6:14:58 GMT
I live aboard where there is no towpath, the concrete quay that I am tied to is about 20 foot wide and is private property (and anyone on there will be told to go forth and multiply) .....there is then a 5 foot high river defence wall with public access beyond that. Dog walkers and people out for fresh air regularly pass and at that distance I am more than happy to chat to them ..... would I be as happy if they were walking right next to the boat ? probably not but as long as they maintained a decent gap I would put up with it. If people were getting too close I would not be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 7:15:55 GMT
I live aboard, I don't see how people walking or cycling past my boat pose any risk to me whatsoever. People are allowed to exercise, the towpath is as good a place as any. I won't be putting any signs up, I'll carry on chatting to people walking their dogs etc. I agree, I don't think it would be wise for boaters to alienate the public, especially at the moment. Good point. That's worth a little conspiracy theory as well. Cleverly undermine the relationship between towpath dwellers (using it as a cheap rent-free lifestyle*) and ordinary public (using a local amenity having lost their jobs). Nice. Get canal towpaths into people's heads during a stressful period and bring in the towpath dwellers as a negative force. A nail in the coffin of towpath dwelling... Anyone putting one of these in their boat window is doing themselves a disservice if they are interested in the future of cc ing. It will help to kill it off. The 2m thing is nonsense. Exactly the same applies for pavements. Are you supposed to walk in the road to pass someone? Of course not... People want to be able to use the towpaths as an amenity. A few irritating self important boat dwellers with delusions of importance will not be taken kindly to in future discussions of the waterways. *I know there are some "long term moorings" on towpath as well but these don't usually have residential status.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 28, 2020 7:42:16 GMT
It's all just complete and total bollocks. It's just a strain of Winter flu which has killed no more than previous Winter flu outbreaks. All-cause mortality rates in Europe and Italy are at or below average levels for this time of year. swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/It is all just a mental hysteria. In the 3 month period before Corona virus the winter flu had infected 2 million Italians causing 240 deaths ...... so 80 deaths a month
Italy today ? 1,000 deaths a day Yeah ..... just mental hysteria ...... just put your head back under the blanket
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Post by metanoia on Mar 28, 2020 7:48:27 GMT
I live aboard where there is no towpath, the concrete quay that I am tied to is about 20 foot wide and is private property (and anyone on there will be told to go forth and multiply) .....there is then a 5 foot high river defence wall with public access beyond that. Dog walkers and people out for fresh air regularly pass and at that distance I am more than happy to chat to them ..... would I be as happy if they were walking right next to the boat ? probably not but as long as they maintained a decent gap I would put up with it. If people were getting too close I would not be happy. I always chat with and/or smile at walkers and their dogs - I certainly wouldn't want one of those notices in my window. My concern is more the narrowness of the towpath and the fact that it resembled a theme park a couple of days ago - more people on a mile or so stretch in one afternoon than I have seen put together in more than ten years along there - including the summer. They are just not able to pass each other safely - and it was a lovely touch by the cyclist who nearly missed one old guy to deposit a large pool of saliva inches from his feet. Just seems all the "rules" are forgotten once people get outside.
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