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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 3, 2020 11:49:36 GMT
Just had n the middle of stopping Skylight circus bin and women's hygiene collections, money better spent retaining our own staff. Swmbo is crunching the year end finances to see how long we can survive, any applications for financial help will need Β£info too. We'd both rather play in the garden or go for a walk. Don't forget to include the council tax bill. No reductions, of course.
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Post by Jim on Apr 3, 2020 11:55:07 GMT
Just had n the middle of stopping Skylight circus bin and women's hygiene collections, money better spent retaining our own staff. Swmbo is crunching the year end finances to see how long we can survive, any applications for financial help will need Β£info too. We'd both rather play in the garden or go for a walk. Who knows, there you are - a structured/organised group of people wondering about your futures? Could you not put the future in your own hands and repurpose to something more practically useful, at least in the short/medium term? We are giving everything serious thought. Some funders are letting us spend "restricted funds" on keeping going. Others are thinking about it. We have enough reserves to pay staff till we can reclaim the 80%. If we were to keep folks in employment, not furloughed, we couldn't recoup the cost, our potential market is shut down. Staff aren't allowed to do any work while on furlough, they can volunteer, but not for the charity that employs them. Meanwhile we are looking at what we might do online, to keep our members active. Our landlords, a charity managed by the church across the road, have waived the rent for 3 months, that's a help. We rented out our hall to another local group 1 day a week, they aren't running. We have nearly finished the number crunching. Still gathering info on potential support. We'll see. If you could all sacrifice a first born child or favourite grandchild, a pet or blow up doll, if that's all you have, that might help. π
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 12:20:47 GMT
The chances of EA or CaRT refunding Registrations or Licences are below nil and to be honest there is no reason why they should unless you remove your boat from their waters. Neither a Registration or Licence gives you any right* to use your boat, both are in effect charges for having the boat on the water.
* For the pedants on here there is a right of navigation on many rivers the Registration does not confer that right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 12:23:41 GMT
The chances of EA or CaRT refunding Registrations or Licences are below nil and to be honest there is no reason why they should unless you remove your boat from their waters. Neither a Registration or Licence gives you any right* to use your boat, both are in effect charges for having the boat on the water. * For the pedants on here there is a right of navigation on many rivers the Registration does not confer that right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:04:20 GMT
Netflix wasnβt much use today, didnβt keep me entertained so Iβll be asking for 1/7th of the Dee back.
Thank you please.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:06:19 GMT
Fee.. not Dee.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 3, 2020 18:18:57 GMT
Who knows, there you are - a structured/organised group of people wondering about your futures? Could you not put the future in your own hands and repurpose to something more practically useful, at least in the short/medium term? We are giving everything serious thought. Some funders are letting us spend "restricted funds" on keeping going. Others are thinking about it. We have enough reserves to pay staff till we can reclaim the 80%. If we were to keep folks in employment, not furloughed, we couldn't recoup the cost, our potential market is shut down. Staff aren't allowed to do any work while on furlough, they can volunteer, but not for the charity that employs them. Meanwhile we are looking at what we might do online, to keep our members active. Our landlords, a charity managed by the church across the road, have waived the rent for 3 months, that's a help. We rented out our hall to another local group 1 day a week, they aren't running. We have nearly finished the number crunching. Still gathering info on potential support. We'll see. If you could all sacrifice a first born child or favourite grandchild, a pet or blow up doll, if that's all you have, that might help. π You have my sympathies. This whole thing is going to spell ruin for many small and medium enterprises, charities, pubs, restaurants etc etc etc. Most people and/or businesses etc will be able to cope with a few weeks of this, but no more for most. In addition, humans are social creatures and this lockdown is going to lead to enormous mental health issues, suicides etc. I suppose I'm lucky in that it hit when I was virtually at the end of the Winter working period, and although this was a poor year, earnings-wise, I do at least have enough to see me through a few months. After that I don't know, but suicide does seem to be becoming a very attractive option.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 3, 2020 18:21:05 GMT
Why didn't you just 'edit'? (froggy)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:35:24 GMT
We are giving everything serious thought. Some funders are letting us spend "restricted funds" on keeping going. Others are thinking about it. We have enough reserves to pay staff till we can reclaim the 80%. If we were to keep folks in employment, not furloughed, we couldn't recoup the cost, our potential market is shut down. Staff aren't allowed to do any work while on furlough, they can volunteer, but not for the charity that employs them. Meanwhile we are looking at what we might do online, to keep our members active. Our landlords, a charity managed by the church across the road, have waived the rent for 3 months, that's a help. We rented out our hall to another local group 1 day a week, they aren't running. We have nearly finished the number crunching. Still gathering info on potential support. We'll see. If you could all sacrifice a first born child or favourite grandchild, a pet or blow up doll, if that's all you have, that might help. π You have my sympathies. This whole thing is going to spell ruin for many small and medium enterprises, charities, pubs, restaurants etc etc etc. Most people and/or businesses etc will be able to cope with a few weeks of this, but no more for most. In addition, humans are social creatures and this lockdown is going to lead to enormous mental health issues, suicides etc. I suppose I'm lucky in that it hit when I was virtually at the end of the Winter working period, and although this was a poor year, earnings-wise, I do at least have enough to see me through a few months. After that I don't know, but suicide does seem to be becoming a very attractive option. To be fair it would probably make the place better overall if anyone who was depressed enough or disorganised enough or poor enough just got on with it and died early. Survival of the fittest and all that. I've not tried it myself but I do think killing yourself takes a bit of doing. It sort of goes against the grain slightly. It'll definitely be interesting for any remaining survivors to see the statistics in a year or two. The ONS, if they still exist and the staff have not all jumped off cliffs or been killed by the bug, will publish the data. It'll probably just be a little blip. I just hope we don't get loads of attention seekers going for the attempted suicide knowing someone will be able to stop them or it won't work. If you are going to do it, do it quietly and don't fuck too many other people up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:36:27 GMT
The chances of EA or CaRT refunding Registrations or Licences are below nil and to be honest there is no reason why they should unless you remove your boat from their waters. Neither a Registration or Licence gives you any right* to use your boat, both are in effect charges for having the boat on the water. * For the pedants on here there is a right of navigation on many rivers the Registration does not confer that right. I've had to explain this to my brother just this afternoon. I can't see the sense of linking the ability to navigate with the legal requirement to pay a registration fee, the two are mutually inclusive - The PRN confirming the right to navigate subject to satisfying the registration requirements of the navigation authority. How many hours, days, week, months use you get from said registration is neither here nor there. Last year we got less value out of our registration fee than all the years previous - none of it was the EA's fault; seeing as boating isn't pay as you go I had to suck it up and hope for more boating this year. Sadly that doesn't look likely; again through no fault of the EA. As you say, taking the boat out of the water gets round the registration requirement, but it also turns the boat into a static caravan and I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than go down that route - besides, all slipping operations have been cancelled and we are not supposed to travel.... That said Oundle Marina appears to have shut up shop so even if we did make a run for it we still couldn't get her out of the water. The most simple solution is to do what we did last year, pay the fee we would have paid anyway and keep out fingers crossed we manage a few hours mid summer onwards. It's a damn sight easier and cheaper staying legal than seeing what happens if payment for the registration fee is held back.
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Post by patty on Apr 4, 2020 5:51:53 GMT
i started doing some research last night..I'm a firm believer in knowing your enemy and I found it fascinating a) the spread of this Pandemic and b) the unanswered queries that emerge through reading about this So I now have a list of questions that necessitates more research that will throw up ... Another list of questions...and so it perpetuates
Question is ..Will I find all the answers? This reminds me of my knotweed research where no avenue was left unexplored searching out the how/why and what it would cost me....
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