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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 5:11:22 GMT
I read a bit of this thread earlier but I've sunk the best part of a bottle of wine before reading the rest so can't be arsed to go back and read it all again. Is the engine turning over? Hello Ricco, you probably think I am complete dimwit, but because the engine always started first time, and it was always someone else who ran it up, I am not 100% sure what it should sound like. Also sometimes started with engine cover off. It usually runs quietly with no smoke. I can hear chug chug chug when the ingition key is fully engaged to the right. From this I decided it was lacking pure fuel with no air but the chug chug chug is engine turning over. I believe I am using the starter battery plus 405 ah of the new AGM leisures. At this time, using battery charger daily, several hours per day. There is also solar which normally keeps everything happy. I think fuel is gravity fed fron the tank of what is clean fuel with #19 additive at correct dilution. It has been suggested I am not "heating" long enough, instructions indicate the engine [Isuzu] has a fast heating facility, I will try to hold the heat stage longer in the morning. Webasto is working happily, same fuel. The fuel filter was changed by very experienced person. I think, but am not sure, there is a tiny gleam of oil/diesel at junction of filter and the "distributer". The filter is tight, It was a helluva job to get the old one off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 5:29:50 GMT
It's funny she only comes here when she doesn't get what she wants over there.I surely cannot be the only person who remembers how she behaved when she first landed here ? I do visit here without posting, there are some good posts, but there are some Twats.
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Post by patty on Apr 4, 2020 6:01:27 GMT
Well, for your sake I sincerely hope the technical guys on here might once again be helpful later tonight, which is considerably more than I would be after having been informed you would fanny through your day and then try the engine again at midnight! Advice, by the way that the guys gave willingly, taking quite some time and you haven't even had the grace to thank them for it. I wonder why you haven't asked for this advice on cwdf? Don’t worry, I give advice just to make myself look very clever, not in the hope of appreciation. I think you're very clever.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 6:02:01 GMT
Socks; you said earlier in the thread that you tried with no throttle, can I suggest you try starting with the throttle lever pushed half way forward and do give the glow plugs a good work out of a 10 count or more Phil Yes, I started off with pulling morse lever out to disengage gear and setting it at 45 degress. Will read user instructions and manual. I wonder if I have sealed fuel tank, but Webasto still happy. I will loosen filler cap, remove vaseline, and remove paint from breather gauze.
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Post by bodger on Apr 4, 2020 7:09:55 GMT
It's funny she only comes here when she doesn't get what she wants over there.I surely cannot be the only person who remembers how she behaved when she first landed here ? you really couldn't make it up, could you?
I previously suggested that she ask a nearby boater to help, but she is clearly socially deficient and/or suffering from alcoholic uncertainty and/or is not suitable or qualified to be in charge of a powered sewer tube.
I am almost feeling sorry for her but I must remind myself that if she were a he I would be calling him a twit, and I should not be sexist ................... conclusion has to be: she is a twit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 7:12:11 GMT
Success Many thanks, it was no heating, did exactly what it said in Manual, started immediately, very light smoke, on tickover now.
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 4, 2020 7:12:46 GMT
No sinner is beyond redemption.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 7:18:05 GMT
What an outlandish idea ... doing what it says in the manual ... who'd a thought that would work Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 4, 2020 7:19:51 GMT
Success Many thanks, it was no heating, did exactly what it said in Manual, started immediately, very light smoke, on tickover now. Jolly good!
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 4, 2020 7:23:38 GMT
fuel filter ... may not have been changed since 2013. The fact is the engine was running after fuel filter change. Another fact is that the year is now 2020.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 4, 2020 7:29:23 GMT
Don’t worry, I give advice just to make myself look very clever, not in the hope of appreciation. I do worry, Ive had good advice on here and appreciated it and I'd hope that any of us could ask again, but ill mannered twit twats might discourage further advice being given quite so freely in future. Sometimes it could be best just for someone to jump in their car and nip over and have a look, a bit like the nice kind Bizzard of CWDF with Donkey's overheating issue. Although would such a journey be 'essential' according to England's coronavirus recommendations - a £60 fine for going to help someone with a boat problem?
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 4, 2020 7:34:05 GMT
I AM NOT GOING TO TRY THE ENGINE TONIGHT. I would not be running for long, anyway. It is quieter than the Webasto. There are working boats coming and going here 24/7 I can do without distracting comments. OF COURSE I AM GRATEFUL FOR HELP, situation not yet resolved bizarre. I am reminded of the CWDF lady who went off in a huff and painted her boat all over in blacking, including all over her mushrooms. I forget her name. We passed her boat outside Skipton in June 2017. Has it passed the BSS I wonder...
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 4, 2020 7:50:33 GMT
Socks; you said earlier in the thread that you tried with no throttle, can I suggest you try starting with the throttle lever pushed half way forward and do give the glow plugs a good work out of a 10 count or more Phil Yet I have been told that it's complete nonsense to start a diesel engine with throttle open, because it is fully open anyway before the engine starts. Glow plug(s) - how old are they? Do they work? We have one and I can easily lean over the edge of the engine room to touch our glow plug chamber body to see how hot is is getting - the instructions say 20 seconds, I usually give 30 seconds, then perhaps another 30 seconds. At this stage the body is too hot to touch so I reckon the air inside is nice 'n' warm too! But the people who renovated our engine, when I told them that the mechanic at a certain boatyard said 'Bukhs need to be started with the throttle open / morse lever forward a bit' said he obviously knows fuck all about how a diesel engine works.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 4, 2020 7:54:31 GMT
I read a bit of this thread earlier but I've sunk the best part of a bottle of wine before reading the rest so can't be arsed to go back and read it all again. Is the engine turning over? I believe I am using the starter battery plus 405 ah of the new AGM leisures. At this time, using battery charger daily, several hours per day. There is also solar which normally keeps everything happy. We start our engine using the starter battery ONLY when engine is cold..... if engine is warm, I don't think it matters if you use the leisures to re-start it, or a combination of starter + leisures. Isolator switch on 1 means 'starter battery only' for us. How old is socks' starter battery? Time for a new one?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 4, 2020 7:55:57 GMT
Socks; you said earlier in the thread that you tried with no throttle, can I suggest you try starting with the throttle lever pushed half way forward and do give the glow plugs a good work out of a 10 count or more Phil Yet I have been told that it's complete nonsense to start a diesel engine with throttle open, because it is fully open anyway before the engine starts. Glow plug(s) - how old are they? Do they work? We have one and I can easily lean over the edge of the engine room to touch our glow plug chamber body to see how hot is is getting - the instructions say 20 seconds, I usually give 30 seconds, then perhaps another 30 seconds. At this stage the body is too hot to touch so I reckon the air inside is nice 'n' warm too! But the people who renovated our engine, when I told them that the mechanic at a certain boatyard said 'Bukhs need to be started with the throttle open / morse lever forward a bit' said he obviously knows fuck all about how a diesel engine works. However: Once the temperature gets below around 8 degrees in my engine hole starting with a good bit of throttle is the only way to go. Without throttle, regardless of how long I operate the heater plugs the engine 'dawdles' for a good couple of minutes, barely turning over. Applying throttle while this is going on makes no difference. However, if I start with a good bit of throttle it sometimes (not always) roars away straight away.
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