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Post by phil70 on Apr 14, 2020 10:53:05 GMT
I got a text message this morning from my Vet saying that Monty was due his health check and vaccination but due to Covid19 this was being postponed and they would be in touch when vaccinations are being restarted.
Strange that because they always gave me the impression that it was "VITAL" and essential that the jabs are given in a timely manner. Makes me wonder if I should bother as we have 3 dogs and could save a few beer tokens for myself
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 11:30:41 GMT
Lots of people have dogs with no jabs, sure they do fine, is it worth it though for more beer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 11:39:57 GMT
My bitch lived for 16 years and died naturally only injections she had was when she came out of Battersea dogs home in 1989.
I suppose if the animals systems are used to vaccines then they may be more susceptible to problems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 11:45:42 GMT
A quote...
'The WSAVA guidelines also address the recommended frequency of vaccination: for the main core vaccines, after puppy shots followed by a booster at fifteen months of age, it’s now regarded as safe to repeat the vaccine every three years. If dogs need to be protected against certain other illnesses- including Leptospirosis and Kennel Cough – immunological studies have demonstrated that once yearly vaccines are still needed.'
'This can all become over-complicated for the average pet owner, which is why it’s still recommended that the safest answer is a once yearly health check by your vet.'
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Apr 14, 2020 11:55:16 GMT
Is it not a requirement for the pet insurance?
You could always eat the dogs.............many do.
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Post by JohnV on Apr 14, 2020 11:58:22 GMT
oh Lord.....covid 20 on the way
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Post by patty on Apr 14, 2020 12:07:25 GMT
My daughter no longer has her collie vaccinated as she's so terrified of the vets she has a fit if taken....the dog that is not daughter
I had Molly vaccinated and she still got kennel cough
The vet did tell daughter that the vaccines do last longer than a year..if your dogs don't mix with lots of others I do not see it as vital.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 12:34:33 GMT
oh Lord.....covid 20 on the way Apparently due to the problems in shops some people have started eating crows which will presumably lead to Corvid-20. Too many diseases rolling around. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 14, 2020 13:06:44 GMT
I stopped taking our cats to the vets as the expense was getting out of hand. Animals survive in nature without vaccinations*. And so did ours until they died of old age. 19.5 years old and 18.5 years old not too bad for cats, eh? I did take them to the vets to have their teeth cleaned though, as I don't have the anaesthetic & needles, neither the ultrasound teeth-cleaning needle. If I had I'd have done it myself.
*(this doesn't mean that individuals shouldn't get certain types of vaccines because some diseases are so deadly you really do need them).
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Post by Gone on Apr 14, 2020 14:50:41 GMT
My bitch lived for 16 years and died naturally only injections she had was when she came out of Battersea dogs home in 1989. I suppose if the animals systems are used to vaccines then they may be more susceptible to problems. if most (say 90%) vaccinate their dogs then the unvaccinated dogs are unlikely to meet an infected dog from which they can catch something. Bit like measles in humans, it’s rare in this country to have measles outbreaks, but if vaccination levels are below a certain level outbreaks happen from time to time. Therefore if most are getting their dogs vaccinated you are getting the benefit without the cost. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 14:58:53 GMT
Very convenient.
Actually my woman agrees with this principle as our children have had the usual jabs to be fair.
She wouldn't have pets though.
I'm anti all this medical intervention really. If people, or animals, get sick and die then so be it. It's too dodgy to rely on pharmaceuticals to make the world a better place.
I think people take their pets too seriously sometimes.
My next pet is going to be a bird.
Like this one hopefully
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Post by Gone on Apr 14, 2020 16:24:03 GMT
Very convenient. Actually my woman agrees with this principle as our children have had the usual jabs to be fair. She wouldn't have pets though. I'm anti all this medical intervention really. If people, or animals, get sick and die then so be it. It's too dodgy to rely on pharmaceuticals to make the world a better place. I think people take their pets too seriously sometimes. My next pet is going to be a bird. Like this one hopefully Letting your child die from small pox, dysentery or polio or going permanently blind from measles is not something that should be allowed. Unless there is a good medical reason not to, I think vaccinations should be mandatory. Nor would I wish my mother (not that I still have one) to slowly suffocate to death with corona virus, so the quicker they get a vaccine the better. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 16:29:04 GMT
I see your point and you have used suitably emotive language to put it across but I don't like the vaccine thing.
What happens if most people can deal with a disease and get on with it? If you protect the weakest ones then you are in the end sacrificing the stronger ones.
I've had measles and mumps but then we were quite an isolated and well off family surrounded by other quite isolated and well of families when I was a child.
I've eaten horse shit and it didn't do me any harm. It was sun-dried horse-shit and early 1980s but would anyone these days let their kids eat horse shit?
I bet it's frowned upon. Actually it was pony shit but you know what I mean.
I'm sure it did the world of good for the gut health and immune system.
As for the slowly suffocating to death thing that's exactly what happened to my mum as she hanged herself. Hypoxia but self inflicted not a disease. Probably better than being a clinically depressed geriatric going forward though, to be fair.
And I also know about pneumonia having had a very bad case of the bacterial version myself a few years ago. No you don't want that but I still think if it's a virus ie something which is subject to vaccination it is a better approach to let the body deal with it. If it can't then that's it.
I've got young children myself it would be a bit nasty to see them die early I agree but it would be a whole lot more nasty to see them hijacked by the drugs.
Having said that they have had the BCG and all that thanks to their slightly more sensible mother plus they live in an inner city slum area so probably sensible.
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