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Post by thebfg on May 10, 2020 1:02:37 GMT
64% of what? I'm surprised at this thread, I'd have thought you would wait for it to be extended and then used it for Tory bashing. I've no thoughts either way. They will or they won't. If we are settling in for the long haul with lockdown/social distancing and the virus, I think at some point life still has to carry on. The people surveyed. Keep up lad. Sorry silly me. All ten people down the local park.π
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Post by peterboat on May 10, 2020 11:45:15 GMT
The problem with EU quotas is fish caught outside the quota are thrown back in, dead in most cases so yes they are still doing a good job of killing the oceans
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Post by lollygagger on May 10, 2020 11:55:30 GMT
The problem with EU quotas is fish caught outside the quota are thrown back in, dead in most cases so yes they are still doing a good job of killing the oceans That's the same with any quota system to be fair.
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Post by peterboat on May 10, 2020 12:02:28 GMT
The problem with EU quotas is fish caught outside the quota are thrown back in, dead in most cases so yes they are still doing a good job of killing the oceans That's the same with any quota system to be fair. Thats right so its better for the fish in the end if we fish our waters without quotas but a limited amount of boats that way all the fish caught get landed. in some cases under the current system wastes thousands of tons each trip not good really
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Post by JohnV on May 12, 2020 9:11:26 GMT
The best way is probably big marine "safe areas" and day boats given high priority, deep sea boats restricted in number, net size and catch size limited, by-catch dumping strictly prohibited. It also would require heavy policing. ...... all this would make fish more expensive but sustainable
Ha !!! should read to the end of the thread .... see Peterboat posted in similar vein
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Post by Jim on May 12, 2020 9:38:32 GMT
The problem with EU quotas is fish caught outside the quota are thrown back in, dead in most cases so yes they are still doing a good job of killing the oceans Β Is there any truth in that Covid-19 victims are being turned into biscuits? Green faux soya soup. Delicious with Long Pig Scratchings sprinkled on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 15:24:12 GMT
Deal done evidently, looks like an extension for five and a half years ππ€£
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 24, 2020 15:38:25 GMT
The huge mistake was made by Tony Blair when he opted out of disbarring workers from the newly joined eastern European states from working here for seven years, along with Sweden and the ROI we were the only country to invoke this opt-out, and as a result hundreds of thousands of workers from post-Communist countries took the opportunity (quite understandably) to work in these three countries which immediately caused wage stagnation in the fields in which they worked, manufacturing, transport etc.
The Powers That Be then compounded this error by claiming that anyone complaining that their pay had not risen in ten years, while inflation inexorably eroded their standard of living was "racist".
If France, Germany, Benelux etc were so keen on the idea of free movement of labour why didn't they share in the burden of permitting it?
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 24, 2020 16:26:40 GMT
The huge mistake was made by Tony Blair when he opted out of disbarring workers from the newly joined eastern European states from working here for seven years, along with Sweden and the ROI we were the only country to invoke this opt-out, and as a result hundreds of thousands of workers from post-Communist countries took the opportunity (quite understandably) to work in these three countries which immediately caused wage stagnation in the fields in which they worked, manufacturing, transport etc. The Powers That Be then compounded this error by claiming that anyone complaining that their pay had not risen in ten years, while inflation inexorably eroded their standard of living was "racist". If France, Germany, Benelux etc were so keen on the idea of free movement of labour why didn't they share in the burden of permitting it? Ancient history now. There is no doubt that if I am going to receive service in a restaurant, hotel etc I would far rather have an eastern european doing it than some grumpy "wish I was somewhere else" sloppy local type.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 16:31:36 GMT
The huge mistake was made by Tony Blair when he opted out of disbarring workers from the newly joined eastern European states from working here for seven years, along with Sweden and the ROI we were the only country to invoke this opt-out, and as a result hundreds of thousands of workers from post-Communist countries took the opportunity (quite understandably) to work in these three countries which immediately caused wage stagnation in the fields in which they worked, manufacturing, transport etc. The Powers That Be then compounded this error by claiming that anyone complaining that their pay had not risen in ten years, while inflation inexorably eroded their standard of living was "racist". If France, Germany, Benelux etc were so keen on the idea of free movement of labour why didn't they share in the burden of permitting it? Ancient history now. There is no doubt that if I am going to receive service in a restaurant, hotel etc I would far rather have an eastern european doing it than some grumpy "wish I was somewhere else" sloppy local type. The grumpy I wish I was somewhere else probably knows you from thunderboat of course, whereas the happy eastern european never frequents this forum and has no idea of what heβs in for π
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 24, 2020 18:47:37 GMT
The huge mistake was made by Tony Blair when he opted out of disbarring workers from the newly joined eastern European states from working here for seven years, along with Sweden and the ROI we were the only country to invoke this opt-out, and as a result hundreds of thousands of workers from post-Communist countries took the opportunity (quite understandably) to work in these three countries which immediately caused wage stagnation in the fields in which they worked, manufacturing, transport etc. The Powers That Be then compounded this error by claiming that anyone complaining that their pay had not risen in ten years, while inflation inexorably eroded their standard of living was "racist". If France, Germany, Benelux etc were so keen on the idea of free movement of labour why didn't they share in the burden of permitting it? I agree this was a mistake but the bigger mistake was to agree to join the new European super state without referring to the people. Most of the flood of economic migrants arrived after the 7 year (wasn't it 5?) time period you refer to had already expired.
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