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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 11:33:01 GMT
I got this one
update, 11 May 2020
Hello Commander!,
With the Government announcing a first step in lifting restrictions on outdoor activities, and allowing people to drive to spend time outdoors with members of the same household, from Wednesday, the Trust is lifting any remaining restrictions on boat owners visiting their boats though the Trust advises against travelling long distances unless it is essential to do so.
At this stage we continue to advise that boats should only be used for minimal travel. Angling and watersports (canoeing, Kayaking and SUP), for exercise, can also resume on Wednesday and we are reviewing when we can restore navigation in light of the new government advice.
In the meantime, mooring exemptions are extended by a further two weeks until 23 May.
As you may have seen before the weekend, we’ve created a survey to help us understand what your plans are for boating after the lockdown. Thanks to the 4,000 or so who’ve taken part but if you haven’t yet there’s still time. You’ll find the survey here – it’ll only take a couple of minutes to complete.
As ever, we’ll be constantly reviewing, and updating, our FAQs as more detail comes from government so do please regularly check back.
Best wishes, stay safe, Damian Kemp, Boating communications manager, Canal & River Trust
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Post by quaysider on May 11, 2020 11:45:25 GMT
HAVING re-read it a few times - Rog is right (as are the people now fighting with me on twitter but I'll not let them know) they did mean not to travel along distance to visit your boat NOT dont travel a long distance ON your boat...
Their lack of punctuation/poor writing skills are worse (is worse?) than mine!
Ooops... Twitter: light blue touch paper and stand well back. I'm going out for a walk to sit on a bench and stay home with my colleagues and family whilst socially distancing from the other people in my household.
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Post by Jim on May 11, 2020 11:46:57 GMT
... and we've all been invited to do the survey again!
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Post by lollygagger on May 11, 2020 11:57:57 GMT
HAVING re-read it a few times - Rog is right (as are the people now fighting with me on twitter but I'll not let them know) they did mean not to travel along distance to visit your boat NOT dont travel a long distance ON your boat... But then the next bit DID say to keep boat movement minimal so a bit of a waste of time spent analysing the first bit.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 13:09:32 GMT
Well I’m going for a jolly this weekend!!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:15:55 GMT
HAVING re-read it a few times - Rog is right (as are the people now fighting with me on twitter but I'll not let them know) they did mean not to travel along distance to visit your boat NOT dont travel a long distance ON your boat... Their lack of punctuation/poor writing skills are worse (is worse?) than mine! Ooops... Twitter: light blue touch paper and stand well back. I'm going out for a walk to sit on a bench and stay home with my colleagues and family whilst socially distancing from the other people in my household. Jane insists I have NEVER been right. Rog
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 21:32:29 GMT
Succinctly put by a poster on Twitter, with reference to the CRT.
*The Exec & Trustees just couldn't have been any more out of their depth, intellectually & procedurally overwhelmed, left with not a clue. Moths trying to change a light-bulb. They could survive, just, in peacetime, but this pandemic has advertised their lightweight status to all.*
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Post by Gone on May 12, 2020 8:24:45 GMT
Well I’m going for a jolly this weekend!! Looks like you will not be. The latest update from CRT “Overnight stays are not permitted. Hence the Trust advises against travelling long distances to visit your boat. Can I go out on my boat for a cruise? No. Boat movement is currently restricted; only those living on their boat can make short essential trips to facilities or services”
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Post by Gone on May 12, 2020 8:26:04 GMT
HAVING re-read it a few times - Rog is right (as are the people now fighting with me on twitter but I'll not let them know) they did mean not to travel along distance to visit your boat NOT dont travel a long distance ON your boat... Their lack of punctuation/poor writing skills are worse (is worse?) than mine! Ooops... Twitter: light blue touch paper and stand well back. I'm going out for a walk to sit on a bench and stay home with my colleagues and family whilst socially distancing from the other people in my household. You may have been wrong on Twitter, but now you are correct. Obviously you can see into the future and predict CRT future proclamations. Can you do the same with lottery numbers?? That would be more helpful for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 8:58:01 GMT
The common sense way to look at all this, is that they simply want people to avoid any unessesery risk by being near others who aren't in your household.
I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. There is a bit of additional risk as regards the travelling to and from the two.
The problem is that in reality some people lack common sense and I guess the government have to build in an allowance for that in the guidance.
It does seem odd that it's Ok for those who can't work from home to pack into tube trains and risk their lives yet we are being told you can't visit a second home for a rest.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 9:01:02 GMT
I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. There is a bit of additional risk as regards the travelling to and from the two. I guess there is a potential problem if you start using local amenities like shops. Second homes are sometimes in quiet little villages where there may only be a little "local shop for local people" where social distancing is basically impossible. If you get people who don't usually shop there going in then it increases numbers of shoppers and changes the risk. I think that's what is being referred to.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 9:07:50 GMT
I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. It is the imported risk to areas that have a high number of second homes that the rules/guidance are aimed towards. I think.
Cumbria is currently struggling with being one of the current worst affected areas - last thing it needs at the moment is a large number of extra visitors staying overnight. Often common sense is applied to the individual's circumstances not the wider community's interests.
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Post by patty on May 12, 2020 9:08:14 GMT
The common sense way to look at all this, is that they simply want people to avoid any unessesery risk by being near others who aren't in your household. I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. There is a bit of additional risk as regards the travelling to and from the two. The problem is that in reality some people lack common sense and I guess the government have to build in an allowance for that in the guidance. It does seem odd that it's Ok for those who can't work from home to pack into tube trains and risk their lives yet we are being told you can't visit a second home for a rest. I wonder if its all to do with not opening everything up all at once..... Go to work..thats one 'controlled area'.. But if people then hop off to another area to a second home we r getting back to being leapfroggin frogs...if u get my drift
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 9:25:40 GMT
The common sense way to look at all this, is that they simply want people to avoid any unessesery risk by being near others who aren't in your household. I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. There is a bit of additional risk as regards the travelling to and from the two. The problem is that in reality some people lack common sense and I guess the government have to build in an allowance for that in the guidance. It does seem odd that it's Ok for those who can't work from home to pack into tube trains and risk their lives yet we are being told you can't visit a second home for a rest. I wonder if its all to do with not opening everything up all at once..... Go to work..thats one 'controlled area'.. But if people then hop off to another area to a second home we r getting back to being leapfroggin frogs...if u get my drift Yes, I agree with you and the others. That's probably why CRT have said it's Ok to visit the boat so long as you don't stay over. Since this lock down, we've stayed in the same area for the same reasons. TBH I have been tempted to do what other liveaboards have done and move to the next CRT facilities in a linear direction, but I think that does increase the risk slightly. Not as much as packing a tube train to get to work though!
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Post by lollygagger on May 12, 2020 9:35:41 GMT
I personally can't see much risk if people go from one home to a second home provided it only involves those in your household. It is the imported risk to areas that have a high number of second homes that the rules/guidance are aimed towards. I think.
Cumbria is currently struggling with being one of the current worst affected areas - last thing it needs at the moment is a large number of extra visitors staying overnight. Often common sense is applied to the individual's circumstances not the wider community's interests.
I'd put the word "Too" in front of the bold bit. This is the result of 40 years of political and consumerist encouragement to be self-centred individuals. Look after no.1 and sod everyone else. Fuckin compete with them at every level of life. "My rules" and all that pappy shit. Society's arse truly bitten.
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