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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 18:33:13 GMT
'There are no restrictions on how far you can travel to get to the countryside. However you should not stay overnight. Campsites and caravan parks are closed and you cannot visit a holiday or second home.'
Updated from this morning...
Now if you still think you can legitimately stay on your boat overnight as a leisure boater, expect some disagreement or at least be told to shut the feck up and stop rocking the boat.
What is the point of a hostile response like that. For a start I never suggested anybody could or should stay overnight, secondly I am well aware of the Govt stance and indeed the Crt stance on this and finally I was referring to the wording in the EA announcement which seems to omit that requirement. I also included an extract from the EA announcement. If I was aware of the above you would not have received a hostile response.
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Post by Boaty on May 13, 2020 18:38:02 GMT
What is the point of a hostile response like that. For a start I never suggested anybody could or should stay overnight, secondly I am well aware of the Govt stance and indeed the Crt stance on this and finally I was referring to the wording in the EA announcement which seems to omit that requirement. I also included an extract from the EA announcement. If I was aware of the above you would not have received a hostile response. You should have gone back to the beginning of that particular exchange but never mind.
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Post by quaysider on May 13, 2020 18:56:41 GMT
well I see it as good news... we can basically boat... just not far but without needing an essential reason... - now if only the Leeds and Liverpool was opened back up I could get off the darn thing asap.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 19:18:33 GMT
Boaty. The software on this forum allows you to delete a post completely if you want to. Not sure how it works on a computer but it comes under the same heading as edit using a mobile device. On my phone I can choose "delete post" and type "delete" as a confirmation then it's gone. It's quite an odd feature as you can use it any time but if someone has quoted you or taken the time to cut your text and save it then it could come back and haunt you.
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Post by Boaty on May 13, 2020 19:23:00 GMT
Can't see that on a Mac. Probably me but just cannot find it!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 19:25:32 GMT
That could be an Apple problem. They've always had a few issues ever since someone decided that a partially eaten fruit was a good logo
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 19:39:49 GMT
Can't see that on a Mac. Probably me but just cannot find it! It is a function native to the website, not the device, although content viewed on a mobile phone is formatted differently. What appears on a web page viewed on a PC should be identical to what is displayed on a Mac. Look to the top left of the post you wish to delete (where the 'like' function is) and you may notice an icon that looks like a cog; click on it and select the option you require. You have to be logged in, and it has to be one of your own posts.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 20:04:57 GMT
I'd call it a sprocket rather than a cog but I know what you mean. On my phone it looks like this. I added the orange arrow for clarity. SCREENSHOT OF ANDROID PHONE DISPLAY SHOWn BELOW ----
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 20:07:27 GMT
Oh shit that's confusing sorry about that !!
It looks like I was telling @nemesis to Shut It but I wasn't. It was an example.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 20:08:32 GMT
Can't see that on a Mac. Probably me but just cannot find it! Little settings icon top right - leads to drop-down box in which 'delete' is to be found. Although changing everything to the one word 'delete' also works fine. Hear hear the expert speaketh Just don't mention the slimy Indians again OK?
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Post by Boaty on May 14, 2020 8:45:50 GMT
Can't see that on a Mac. Probably me but just cannot find it! Little settings icon top right - leads to drop-down box in which 'delete' is to be found. Although changing everything to the one word 'delete' also works fine. Thanks all, now found. I was erroneously looking under edit and then the little cog.
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Post by peterboat on May 14, 2020 16:20:53 GMT
The way I have read it is 1st june because I live aboard I can go boating on long trips, leisure boaters cant because they cant stay on the boat overnight, if that is right it will cause a fuss and of course unless something happens is very difficult to enforce That is not how I read it. Basically they seem to me to be saying that up until June it is essential travel only (so no change) but that from now leisure boaters can visit their boats to get them ready for June when it is hoped that non essential boating can recommence. I can find nothing that says leisure boaters cannot stay on their boats overnight. Extract follows: The Government have clearly stated that it is far too early to make fundamental changes to the social distancing requirements in relation to the Coronavirus emergency. So at this stage, we want to reiterate that boaters should avoid all non-essential travel on our waterways for the next few weeks and to make journeys only to access essential services and facilities - this will help ensure safety of boaters and staff. We know boat owners have told us they are keen to get back out on the water in the near future. We are working hard to prepare for boaters to get out on the water as soon as it is safe to do so. Environment Agency teams will prepare for boat travel to resume by undertaking inspections and maintenance to river channels and structures to ensure they are safe. In light of the Prime Minister's announcement, lifting restrictions on spending time outdoors and allowing car travel to outdoor spaces irrespective of distance from Wednesday, boat owners can visit their boats from today (Wednesday 13 May 2020) to ensure they are well maintained, registered and ready for use once restrictions are lifted. We will work as fast as we can to get the navigations ready for non-essential leisure cruising. We hope to allow some leisure cruising from June and will provide a further update setting out how and when you will be able to resume further leisure boating over the coming weeks. From Monday, 1 June: On this date, we anticipate that our navigations will re-open in full, subject to some exceptions*, and you will be able to undertake longer journeys. According to current Government guidance, those who do not liveaboard should not stay overnight. We will seek further clarification as to whether overnight stays will be permissible once full navigation resumes.
Because of the bit where it says that those who dont livaboard shouldnt stay overnight
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Post by naughtyfox on May 14, 2020 16:45:39 GMT
That is not how I read it. Basically they seem to me to be saying that up until June it is essential travel only (so no change) but that from now leisure boaters can visit their boats to get them ready for June when it is hoped that non essential boating can recommence. I can find nothing that says leisure boaters cannot stay on their boats overnight. Extract follows: The Government have clearly stated that it is far too early to make fundamental changes to the social distancing requirements in relation to the Coronavirus emergency. So at this stage, we want to reiterate that boaters should avoid all non-essential travel on our waterways for the next few weeks and to make journeys only to access essential services and facilities - this will help ensure safety of boaters and staff. We know boat owners have told us they are keen to get back out on the water in the near future. We are working hard to prepare for boaters to get out on the water as soon as it is safe to do so. Environment Agency teams will prepare for boat travel to resume by undertaking inspections and maintenance to river channels and structures to ensure they are safe. In light of the Prime Minister's announcement, lifting restrictions on spending time outdoors and allowing car travel to outdoor spaces irrespective of distance from Wednesday, boat owners can visit their boats from today (Wednesday 13 May 2020) to ensure they are well maintained, registered and ready for use once restrictions are lifted. We will work as fast as we can to get the navigations ready for non-essential leisure cruising. We hope to allow some leisure cruising from June and will provide a further update setting out how and when you will be able to resume further leisure boating over the coming weeks. Because of the bit where it says that those who dont livaboard shouldnt stay overnight
How about if you get off your boat say at 10pm and go for a walk along the towpath, do some night fishing, then back on your boat around 5am?
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 14, 2020 20:55:20 GMT
That is not how I read it. Basically they seem to me to be saying that up until June it is essential travel only (so no change) but that from now leisure boaters can visit their boats to get them ready for June when it is hoped that non essential boating can recommence. I can find nothing that says leisure boaters cannot stay on their boats overnight. Extract follows: The Government have clearly stated that it is far too early to make fundamental changes to the social distancing requirements in relation to the Coronavirus emergency. So at this stage, we want to reiterate that boaters should avoid all non-essential travel on our waterways for the next few weeks and to make journeys only to access essential services and facilities - this will help ensure safety of boaters and staff. We know boat owners have told us they are keen to get back out on the water in the near future. We are working hard to prepare for boaters to get out on the water as soon as it is safe to do so. Environment Agency teams will prepare for boat travel to resume by undertaking inspections and maintenance to river channels and structures to ensure they are safe. In light of the Prime Minister's announcement, lifting restrictions on spending time outdoors and allowing car travel to outdoor spaces irrespective of distance from Wednesday, boat owners can visit their boats from today (Wednesday 13 May 2020) to ensure they are well maintained, registered and ready for use once restrictions are lifted. We will work as fast as we can to get the navigations ready for non-essential leisure cruising. We hope to allow some leisure cruising from June and will provide a further update setting out how and when you will be able to resume further leisure boating over the coming weeks. From Monday, 1 June: On this date, we anticipate that our navigations will re-open in full, subject to some exceptions*, and you will be able to undertake longer journeys. According to current Government guidance, those who do not liveaboard should not stay overnight. We will seek further clarification as to whether overnight stays will be permissible once full navigation resumes.
Because of the bit where it says that those who dont livaboard shouldnt stay overnight
I live aboard, but even if I didn't I would decide whether I spent the night on my boat, not the Government. If I wanted to have my life micro-managed, I would have been born in North Korea.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 21:17:22 GMT
I believe this 'no overnighting' is a carry over from second homes ... and I understand why preventing a load of city dwellers rushing to their second homes in Wales, Cumbria, or coastal towns, and suddenly using local shops, chemists, doctors etc. is better avoided.
But I tend to agree with you.
Government policy (under scientific advice) now seems to be geared towards getting more people out into the world, whilst accepting responsibilty for their own and others safety (distancing and strict hygiene).
I struggle to see why an individual visiting and staying a few nights on their boat need put anyone at risk PROVIDED they strictly observe the above.
Of course the risk is that SOME will not do so ... be straight into communal areas ... barbecues and parties etc.
I suspect the 'overnighting ban' will be lifted by the start of June ... things are understandably changing quite rapidly now.
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