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Post by greenman on May 25, 2020 19:06:19 GMT
Like many others I've not been able to get to the boat for months.
I'm hoping Little Nicky will make things easier this week and I can get down to the boat.
I'll need to flush the water tank, just wondering what folks use to clean out the system. I was thinking of Milton fluid but SWMBO says she's read somewhere that it can bugger up the calorifier.
Any suggestions appreciated.
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Post by quaysider on May 26, 2020 7:10:40 GMT
I've bunged the occasional pack of milton tablets in my (stainless steel) tank and ran it through - I say occasional, I did it once... it took an age for the water (even out of the filter tap) to lose the "taste"... ergo, I don't do it any more... the whole POINT of Stainless is so you CAN drink it and don't have to faff about with it. NOW I just soak my hosepipes in bleach every other week.
It might be different if I didn't live aboard (hence have a constant new supply of chlorinated water going in)... I suppose then, I might do it again.
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Post by Telemachus on May 26, 2020 7:14:24 GMT
Unless there is a specific problem I’d just flush it out with clean tap water, which of course is chlorinated. When our boat was about 5 years old we started to get a bit of a musty smell from the running taps. Eventually I got some Milton, added it to a fairly low water tank, left it for a little while, pumped it all through and then flushed it with tap water. Problem smell went away and has been fine for the past 5 years.
So I don’t necessarily think that Milton would be bad for a calorifier (why, it’s just copper and copper pipe?) but equally no point in putting chemicals into the tank (which will end up on the cut) unless it’s actually necessary.
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Post by peterboat on May 26, 2020 8:27:09 GMT
I would empty tank refill and see what it tastes like first if its not right add milton tablets and flush it through
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 11:28:51 GMT
We never drink water from the tank unless boiled (hot drinks) but do clean teeth, wash etc. In fifteen years of ownership (and the boat is now 27 years old) we've never needed to do anything to the tank other than running it low to leave it for three months in winter, and filling it up on our return. As we've suffered no discolouration or bad taste, we've never sought to do anything ... but we have been advised that Milton (fluid or tablets) and thorough flushing through is the way to go should we need to. Check your tank ... you may need to do nothing  Rog |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 26, 2020 15:25:27 GMT
When we get back to the boat after 3 months away, we have emptied it using the water pump (RIP - new one installed last Feb) and filled with fresh water. We have some 'water tablets' and throw one or two in when we feel like it. I have been inside our tank twice to paint it (Summer 2015, Summer 2019) and in it a few times to give the floor a wipe (just sediment/sand/rust).
We don't drink water from the tank - why take the risk? Our drinking water is usually re-filled-from-taps 5-litre water bottles.
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Post by Telemachus on May 26, 2020 16:11:09 GMT
When we get back to the boat after 3 months away, we have emptied it using the water pump (RIP - new one installed last Feb) and filled with fresh water. We have some 'water tablets' and throw one or two in when we feel like it. I have been inside our tank twice to paint it (Summer 2015, Summer 2019) and in it a few times to give the floor a wipe (just sediment/sand/rust). We don't drink water from the tank - why take the risk? Our drinking water is usually re-filled-from-taps 5-litre water bottles. We drink the water from our tank but then it’s a stainless steel one so why not? What risk? |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 26, 2020 16:16:43 GMT
The risk of standing water. Have you ever looked into a rainwater butt, all those wriggling creatures, and swimming amoeba?
"Dangers. Malaria and dengue are among the main dangers of stagnant water, which can become a breeding ground for the mosquitoes that transmit these diseases. Stagnant water can be dangerous for drinking because it provides a better incubator than running water for many kinds of bacteria and parasites."
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Post by Telemachus on May 26, 2020 18:17:56 GMT
The risk of standing water. Have you ever looked into a rainwater butt, all those wriggling creatures, and swimming amoeba? "Dangers. Malaria and dengue are among the main dangers of stagnant water, which can become a breeding ground for the mosquitoes that transmit these diseases. Stagnant water can be dangerous for drinking because it provides a better incubator than running water for many kinds of bacteria and parasites." Yes but what is your point? Our water tank isn’t filled with rainwater, it is filled with chlorinated tap water. Tap water which has of course been stored in unclean tanks and then run for miles through rusty old Victorian pipework before it got into your plastic bottles or our stainless steel tank. Which brings up an interesting point about the fad for bottled “Mineral water” - typically not chlorinated and thus full of bugs, especially if it’s been opened for a while and a few bugs from your mouth have got in. When Jeff was working with severely immune-compromised people (eg bone marrow transplants) he always told people not to drink bottled water, only chlorinated tap water. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 18:40:41 GMT
Volvic. Filtered through rocks for millions of years.
Best before September 2020.
Keep out of direct sunlight or you might see the algae growing.
It must be quite an interesting study. A bottle opened then someone drinking from it and probably leaving behind some of their own bits plus oxygen admission and atmospheric dust, Corona viruses and general bad shit.
Maybe a single-shot sealed bottle of mineral water would be ok but has anyone ever seen one? I haven't.
Nasty stuff with good marketing.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 26, 2020 18:55:37 GMT
I drink water straight out of the tap but then I'm a proper boater.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 18:59:39 GMT
You drink water Mr Stabby ! I don't believe it ... strong cheap lager most definitely. You may use water for applying your gentlemen's hair products ... but never drinking. Rog |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 18:59:50 GMT
Tap water. Filtered through any amount of human bodies then sterilised with chlorine before being served up again. Maybe its my imagination but the spring water tastes better. Also if you make tea with it the kettle doesn't scale up.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 26, 2020 19:05:10 GMT
You may use water for applying your gentlemen's hair products ... but never drinking. Your envy is showing Rog. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 26, 2020 19:19:49 GMT
Tap water. Filtered through any amount of human bodies then sterilised with chlorine before being served up again. Maybe its my imagination but the spring water tastes better. Also if you make tea with it the kettle doesn't scale up. There's definitely a difference in water, it's not all the same thing. When I owned my truck I once loaded bottled water at Glenlivet in Morayshire. I loaded 26 pallets of little blue 330ml glass bottles, the people at the very small and rural factory told me it sold in London restaurants for £5 a bottle. I was running short of water myself so I asked them if I could fill my 25 litre drum which I carried in the passenger footwell. I said "I don't need anything fancy, tap water will do" and they said "Just fill it up from the tap in the canteen, it's all the same stuff". It did taste much better than city tap water. I also used to love Russian and Ukrainian mineral water, it really had a strong sulphurous taste to it but then I suppose mineral water is supposed to have minerals in it. It was fantastic for curing a vodka hangover. |
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