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Post by patty on Jan 2, 2022 7:15:04 GMT
I guess the next development will be whether they manage to take Prince Andrew to trial.
So much money spent on these cases, the quest for 'justice' seems to have no financial barriers with some high profile characters. Its all a bit unsettling when there are so many other victims whose cries for justice are not heard or swept under a carpet. They target those who have media impact.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 6, 2022 11:36:52 GMT
Looks like she might be getting a reprieve!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 15:04:14 GMT
The Randy Andy case is on! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59871514On-the-steps settlement to follow together with a gagging order that would give Paris Hilton pause for thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 15:05:23 GMT
Kerching
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 15:24:16 GMT
Just supposing for a moment that Giuffre really means it and turns down any such offer in favour of proceeding to trial, would that work against her in court (because she might be viewed as vexatious or summat)?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 19:49:27 GMT
Nice for Mr Johnson to have the news pages cluttered up with the prince story at this stage.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 12, 2022 20:55:32 GMT
If Guiffre was "sex-trafficked" then that is of course a terrible thing but I can't help feeling that she was a young girl over the age of consent acting on her own free will who agreed to trade sex for money and now feels in hindsight that she was underpaid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 21:04:01 GMT
I didn't watch the prince Andrew interview until the other day. Don't have telly and not that bothered but all the general talk piqued my interest.
It was indeed impressive how bad he is at bullshitting. you would think with the education and surroundings he must have had he could have done a far better job!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 12, 2022 21:10:26 GMT
You'd have to say that there is a fair bit about the whole saga that seems slightly fishy...
"When Epstein was placed in the special housing unit, the jail informed the Justice Department that he would have a cellmate, and that a guard would look into the cell every 30 minutes. These procedures were not followed on the night of his death.[286][198][287] On August 9, 2019, Epstein's cellmate was transferred out, but no one took his place.[288] Later in the evening, contrary to the jail's normal procedure, Epstein was not checked every 30 minutes.[286][198][287] The two guards who were assigned to check his jail unit that night fell asleep and did not check on him for about three hours; the guards falsified related records.[198][289] Two cameras in front of Epstein's cell also malfunctioned that night.[16]"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 21:13:00 GMT
And those two jail guards had their cases dropped as soon as the yachting lady was convicted.
Fun and games for someone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 21:15:20 GMT
There is of course the theory that Epstein was a CIA man used to get dirt on Trump in case he needed taking down before it all got too awkward. Once covid 19 was sniffed out (yes they knew it well before we did ) Trump was a goner anyway so Epstein was surplus to requirements. Bye bye. At the end of the day Trump was quite interesting in some ways but definitely not one to give a second term me thinks..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 21:16:12 GMT
If Guiffre was "sex-trafficked" then that is of course a terrible thing but I can't help feeling that she was a young girl over the age of consent acting on her own free will who agreed to trade sex for money and now feels in hindsight that she was underpaid. Over the age if consent in UK but thats not where the offences occoured. Age of consent there is 18. I doubt she will settle out of court which she would if after the cash, it will go to court whether he defends it or not is another matter
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 12, 2022 21:19:42 GMT
If Guiffre was "sex-trafficked" then that is of course a terrible thing but I can't help feeling that she was a young girl over the age of consent acting on her own free will who agreed to trade sex for money and now feels in hindsight that she was underpaid. Over the age if consent in UK but thats not where the offences occoured. Age of consent there is 18. I doubt she will settle out of court which she would if after the cash, it will go to court whether he defends it or not is another matter Giuffre said she also had sexual encounters with Andrew, 59, two other times, in New York and in the U.S. Virgin Islands. The age of consent in all three places is 16 or 17, so any sexual encounter would not be statutory rape. Giuffre instead describes her alleged encounters with Andrew as coerced. eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2019/09/20/jeffrey-epstein-prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-roberts-giuffre-details-dateline-nbc/2388458001/
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Post by metanoia on Jan 12, 2022 21:20:16 GMT
If Guiffre was "sex-trafficked" then that is of course a terrible thing but I can't help feeling that she was a young girl over the age of consent acting on her own free will who agreed to trade sex for money and now feels in hindsight that she was underpaid. Over the age if consent in UK but thats not where the offences occoured. Age of consent there is 18. I doubt she will settle out of court which she would if after the cash, it will go to court whether he defends it or not is another matter You ARE joking?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 21:20:31 GMT
She apparently has form for settling as according to the US news there was a case where she was paid half a million dollars to not sue anyone else.
Also the specifics of the case and the sweating Prince did refer to UK based activities.
Interesting case. I reckon she'll get a few million off HRH and be told to fuck off.
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