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Post by JohnV on Sept 25, 2016 6:41:01 GMT
3 rounds turns and a half hitch works for me. I can see that would work fine for mooring. We don't use that for towing because they reckon that if it is under severe strain and slips a bit the half hitch can tighten and jam, whereas the lift over reverse loop of the lightermans always has a free end to slacken ............. of course the conditions are somewhat different
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 6:44:55 GMT
3 rounds turns and a half hitch works for me. I found some spare rope in the shed last year so i made myself a short line with a bight at each end which i use as the permanant mooring line at home base. Didnt have any splicing tools so I managed with a flat head screw driver and self amalgamating tape for the ends. I must try and learn how to do proper whipping at some stage I thought I needed to buy some kind of kit but all I needed was some masking tape to tie around eack of the ends of the 3 strands and a sharp knife to cut the rope. A marker pen is also useful at first until you get the hang of where to pass the strands through. The trick is to pull the strands through fully and roll the work in your hands every so often to keep it even. The short ends of the strands which remain can be cut and the loose fine strands gently melted down using a light flame. He careful not to burn the main rope too much although it helps hold the strands in place if they slightly melt into the main rope. Maybe there are better ways to finish it off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 7:00:09 GMT
I taper my eye splices by doing 3 tucks on a 3 strands then one more on one and then two more on the next one. All ends cut off about an inch. If they are cut too short they can pull through.
I don't like using flame as it can cause hard sharp bits of melted plastic which can be unpleasant for handling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 7:03:03 GMT
Having the strand ends sticking out a bit is the technically correct way and has the advantage of giving a visual indication of if anything is going wrong with the splice during use under load. The splice will settle and the strands will pull in a bit but if they pull right through and you lose a tuck that could cause stability problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 7:09:21 GMT
I bad a book once which showed spliced eyes being covered with leather to protect the rope from wear.
I decided to adapt this slightly and use bicycle innterube on the eye. It is quite effective and i found it especially useful on narrowboat mooring dollies as while the rope was being pulled the eye tightened and the innertube (butyl rubber) gripped the dolly very tightly stopping the rope jumping off the top when going down Thames locks. The eye has to be made with the innertube in place on the loop part and it has to be sized so that it can just be forced down over the top of the Dolly. That makes a very secure arrangement in my experience. Obviously removed after each use and laid on the cabin slide not hanging on tiller pin.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 25, 2016 7:10:44 GMT
3 rounds turns and a half hitch works for me. I found some spare rope in the shed last year so i made myself a short line with a bight at each end which i use as the permanant mooring line at home base. Didnt have any splicing tools so I managed with a flat head screw driver and self amalgamating tape for the ends. I must try and learn how to do proper whipping at some stage The short ends of the strands which remain can be cut and the loose fine strands gently melted down using a light flame. He careful not to burn the main rope too much although it helps hold the strands in place if they slightly melt into the main rope. Maybe there are better ways to finish it off. Well ........ there are better ways to finish a splice ....... but it depends on what you mean by "better" A splice is stronger than a knot, but the weakest point of a splice is where the final tucks go through the un-altered rope. to reduce this you can give one extra tuck to the second strand and two extra tucks to the third strand "tapering" down the completion. On bigger ropes you can do a more complicated version where you split each strand into two and give half an additional tuck. I remember doing this once ...... just to see if I could but for me it is of no real practical use (unless you are making up lines for ocean liners) and to do it you are just being fancy for the sake of it. The other time you taper a splice is if you are going to put a whipping over it (a perfect example of where you need to taper your tucks is with a French shroud knot) knottyingguide.com/french-shroud-knot/
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Post by JohnV on Sept 25, 2016 7:12:42 GMT
I taper my eye splices by doing 3 tucks on a 3 strands then one more on one and then two more on the next one. All ends cut off about an inch. If they are cut too short they can pull through. I don't like using flame as it can cause hard sharp bits of melted plastic which can be unpleasant for handling. bloody hell mm ......... you can't half type a lot quicker than me !!!!!
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Post by loafer on Oct 3, 2016 21:28:13 GMT
3 rounds turns and a half hitch works for me. I found some spare rope in the shed last year so i made myself a short line with a bight at each end which i use as the permanant mooring line at home base. Didnt have any splicing tools so I managed with a flat head screw driver and self amalgamating tape for the ends. I must try and learn how to do proper whipping at some stage I would in no way argue that, but I believe that one round turn and TWO half-hitches is just as quick to tie and is errr, better. Possibly. It's the one the RYA yachting courses would teach you.
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Post by loafer on Oct 3, 2016 21:28:59 GMT
I taper my eye splices by doing 3 tucks on a 3 strands then one more on one and then two more on the next one. All ends cut off about an inch. If they are cut too short they can pull through. I don't like using flame as it can cause hard sharp bits of melted plastic which can be unpleasant for handling. The Bunsen Backsplice!
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Post by hilda on Oct 4, 2016 10:05:32 GMT
sorry but i think you all take it to seriously, get a life! buy some rope,life is to short to stuff a mushroom,or make a rope! just my thoughts.
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