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Post by patty on Jul 27, 2020 22:41:01 GMT
I do not have an iron. if I am given clothes that need ironing they don't get it, I might allow drip drying but ironing is a definite no no. I had a wife that ironed and who used to do her nut about me wearing a shirt that wasn't ironed ..... Oh the rows.
she just wouldn't accept my stance that body heat got rid of the big wrinkles and that was good enough. "I'm not going out with you looking like that" .... "S'ok I'll stay in and have a beer instead" I had an inkling that my ex and I weren't fully compatible when he told me we'd save ironing towels for a rainy day.... He even ironed socks..we had 2 ironing boards and irons....... ......I think i need another vino......
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Post by patty on Jul 27, 2020 22:42:54 GMT
I do not have an iron. if I am given clothes that need ironing they don't get it, I might allow drip drying but ironing is a definite no no. I had a wife that ironed and who used to do her nut about me wearing a shirt that wasn't ironed ..... Oh the rows.
she just wouldn't accept my stance that body heat got rid of the big wrinkles and that was good enough. "I'm not going out with you looking like that" .... "S'ok I'll stay in and have a beer instead" Having had an office-based job for 20 years I had no option but employ an iron far too often. I hate irons and I hate ironing- I honestly cant see why we cant invent a shirt that doesnt crease up in the wash. But it is what it is- the Illuminati are still keeping the creaseless shirt secret (along with the whole 5G martian invasion thing), so I have no option but to occasionally wield the hated iron. Plus, I dont want to get too blokey just because I'm on a boat. I'm not trying to get in touch with with my feminine side or anything like that, but I've learned that one of the good things about living with a partner is that they tend to have more awareness of the state of your living environment, and of the need to keep it civilised. So without a partner I'e got to make that effort to keep things more or less civilised- including the ironing of shirts when visiting civilised or posh places. err I didn't iron when I was on a boat...never... ditch the iron..let it go..you'll be liberated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 6:59:30 GMT
@tonyc
In my opinion you want to get the fire in there asap. Summer is the ideal time. you can test it on those nasty wet August days when you don't really "need" it but it's very nice.
I had my fire going a couple of days ago simply because it was raining. Lovely.
Regarding the collars when I was looking a while ago I could only find angled ones not flat ones. Of course if the boat is for example a Liverpool boats shell and has a very curved top it might not be angled enough.
The other option is to find a welder and get a custom welded in collar made up.
It wants doing properly if it's welded and I would on balance prefer the cast iron ones but I have had both and welded in collar has some advantages to be fair, if done right. Obvious one being water tightness and you don't rely on a sealant.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 8:31:53 GMT
@tonyc In my opinion you want to get the fire in there asap. Summer is the ideal time. you can test it on those nasty wet August days when you don't really "need" it but it's very nice. I had my fire going a couple of days ago simply because it was raining. Lovely. Regarding the collars when I was looking a while ago I could only find angled ones not flat ones. Of course if the boat is for example a Liverpool boats shell and has a very curved top it might not be angled enough. The other option is to find a welder and get a custom welded in collar made up. It wants doing properly if it's welded and I would on balance prefer the cast iron ones but I have had both and welded in collar has some advantages to be fair, if done right. Obvious one being water tightness and you don't rely on a sealant. Yes, I am a bit concerned about relying on diesel CH for a whole winter. I've got the car probably until next year so no problem getting to DIY shops when I find I'm missing a vital screw half way through the job. My very rough plan at the moment is to firstly rip out the current woodwork to make space, get the hearth done, and then plonk the stove in place. At that point it becomes dependent on getting a few days with little or not rain to drill though the roof and install the flue and collar. I feel that part of the job will have to be completed by any means possible, and asap, once I've cut the hole. Of all the jobs I can envisage being needed, getting though the roof is one I'm pondering. Some people say a good quality (6 inch?) holesaw will do it no problem, others have drilled a series of smaller holes around the circle, and then cut out the circle with a hand/power saw.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 8:38:09 GMT
Keep the iron, don't be another scruffy boater..
To be fair I only have a mini iron and board and iron stuff when going the pub, other times embrace the wrinkles..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 8:39:20 GMT
Having had an office-based job for 20 years I had no option but employ an iron far too often. I hate irons and I hate ironing- I honestly cant see why we cant invent a shirt that doesnt crease up in the wash. But it is what it is- the Illuminati are still keeping the creaseless shirt secret (along with the whole 5G martian invasion thing), so I have no option but to occasionally wield the hated iron. Plus, I dont want to get too blokey just because I'm on a boat. I'm not trying to get in touch with with my feminine side or anything like that, but I've learned that one of the good things about living with a partner is that they tend to have more awareness of the state of your living environment, and of the need to keep it civilised. So without a partner I'e got to make that effort to keep things more or less civilised- including the ironing of shirts when visiting civilised or posh places. err I didn't iron when I was on a boat...never... ditch the iron..let it go..you'll be liberated. I will say Patty, I've had to iron 5 shirts every week for decades, with having an office-based job, and I've hated every moment spent ironing. That said, I'm coming back to work part time for a few months, so I'll still have the odd office day, and the odd ironed shirt will still be needed, more's the pity. I'm also going to wear T shirts a lot more on the boat, and I'll save wearing shirts for when I visit posh places. I remember once or twice I was running really late for work, and I actually just ironed a v shape around the neck, and wore a jumper. I did get caught out doing that once though when the jumper had to come off for some reason I cant remember- much to the amusement of my colleagues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 8:42:08 GMT
I prefer drill and jigsaw to hole cutters.
DeWalt blades. Slowly with cutting fluid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 8:48:46 GMT
Keep your plans fluid ... I guarantee if you take to life onboard, you'll not recognise yourself in 12 months time .
It's not just whether or not to iron ... you'll find time has taken on a different dimension ... daylight and darkness are the only significant measures.
But maybe that's just me ... we live very different lives afloat.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on Jul 28, 2020 10:26:56 GMT
@tonyc In my opinion you want to get the fire in there asap. Summer is the ideal time. you can test it on those nasty wet August days when you don't really "need" it but it's very nice. I had my fire going a couple of days ago simply because it was raining. Lovely. Regarding the collars when I was looking a while ago I could only find angled ones not flat ones. Of course if the boat is for example a Liverpool boats shell and has a very curved top it might not be angled enough. The other option is to find a welder and get a custom welded in collar made up. It wants doing properly if it's welded and I would on balance prefer the cast iron ones but I have had both and welded in collar has some advantages to be fair, if done right. Obvious one being water tightness and you don't rely on a sealant. getting though the roof is one I'm pondering. Some people say a good quality (6 inch?) holesaw will do it no problem, others have drilled a series of smaller holes around the circle, and then cut out the circle with a hand/power saw. it can be done with a holesaw but only if you have a very robust slow speed drill or something like a Rotabroach, a hole saw that size will stress ordinary drills beyond their limits ..... they might survive.
Like magnetman, if I only had only normal tools available I would use a jigsaw, fine tooth quality blade, slow speed.
However I would only drill one starting hole and follow a scribed line (a jigsaw at slow speed with good quality blades will happily cut 6mm plate so no problem with a NB roof)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 10:38:05 GMT
I've cut a few holes for chimneys. I hired a magnetic cutter and a holesaw. Cost was 70 odd quid, but the job was done in about an hour, neat and tidy with no swearing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 10:42:03 GMT
When I did some portholes in 6mm hull sides I started off with a 177mm holesaw to get a groove then one drill hole and follow the groove round with the jigsaw.
It was essential for them to be exactly round as the portholes are mounted inside on mahogany rings/neoprene gaskets.
The 177mm holesaw does make the drill warm up a wee bit. It was a 14.4v Makita.
A chimney it's less important for it to be exact.
But yes just one drill hole then munch through the rest with jigsaw.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 10:47:58 GMT
Thanks for the advice guys- I think I have a cheapish jigsaw in my lockup so I'll dig that out before I move south and make sure it'll run on the boats inverter. Got a couple of weeks to get some decent carbide jigsaw blades (and drill bits), and some cutting solution. I think it would be as well to crack on with it during August if I can find a towpath location where I can get stuck in without bothering any locals or whatever. Knowing me it wont be a very neat circle, but the hole will be overlapped by by the flue collar, so my sins will be covered up! I may return for some more detailed advice in a couple of weeks...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 11:32:53 GMT
When I did some portholes in 6mm hull sides I started off with a 177mm holesaw to get a groove then one drill hole and follow the groove round with the jigsaw. It was essential for them to be exactly round as the portholes are mounted inside on mahogany rings/neoprene gaskets. The 177mm holesaw does make the drill warm up a wee bit. It was a 14.4v Makita. A chimney it's less important for it to be exact. But yes just one drill hole then munch through the rest with jigsaw. This is a great shout, thanks. Marking a groove with a holesaw will really help in making the circle a bit neater. I might as well get a carbide holesaw bit for that. I can take a run at it with my drill to see what happens. It may end up going through, but if not, I have a guide circle to cut to with the jigsaw. I'm going to prepare a list of bits before I start the cutting, and post it here for a reality check. Re the hearth- I saw a video by a famous youtuber who used reflective foil stuff around the stove. It did a brilliant job of reflecting the heat and keeping things cool behind the foil, but it did look a bit - industrial. Now I 'm pondering whether to get the stove before I move. I'm thinking a chandlery will have limited stock and high-ish prices compared to an online supplier, but an online supplier needs an address to deliver it to, and I wont have one of those in a couple of weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 11:37:45 GMT
Cast iron (or are they cast steel actually) manhole cover with surround is quite a good base for a stove.
Bolt the surround to the floor, bolt the fire to the cover and put it in place. Air gap underneath it and it can't move sideways or forwards.
I like industrial but know some don't.
I also think a sliced up beer keg could make quite a nice shield for the back of a smaller stove.
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Post by Trina on Jul 28, 2020 11:42:58 GMT
Back to the ironing,I put our travel iron in a (boat) cupboard when we got the boat 16 years ago.Last year,I took the iron out of the cupboard for the first time...to bring it back to the house ! The daft thing is,when I'm in the house I iron every crease.However,when on the boat-a good shake does the trick !😆
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