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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2020 16:55:09 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 13, 2020 17:17:48 GMT
Lot of problems with rain in Scotland at the mo, the train crash yesterday was the first time in 13 years that a passenger or crew member had been killed in a moving train accident.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 13, 2020 17:59:51 GMT
Lot of problems with rain in Scotland at the mo, the train crash yesterday was the first time in 13 years that a passenger or crew member had been killed in a moving train accident. Yeah - what was that all about? Driver sees a landslip, reverses, takes the other track and makes a charge for it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:10:29 GMT
There's no doubt we're seeing extreme weather events with increasing frequency ... indicates something's going on for sure.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 13, 2020 18:45:20 GMT
There's no doubt we're seeing extreme weather events with increasing frequency ... indicates something's going on for sure. Rog Well, there have always been spells of extreme weather, long before climate change was a thing. Google "great frost of 1709" for example.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:46:13 GMT
Lot of problems with rain in Scotland at the mo, the train crash yesterday was the first time in 13 years that a passenger or crew member had been killed in a moving train accident. What were the non-moving train accidents?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:53:28 GMT
Lot of problems with rain in Scotland at the mo, the train crash yesterday was the first time in 13 years that a passenger or crew member had been killed in a moving train accident. Yeah - what was that all about? Driver sees a landslip, reverses, takes the other track and makes a charge for it? Is that what you would do on your bus?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:56:59 GMT
There's no doubt we're seeing extreme weather events with increasing frequency ... indicates something's going on for sure. Rog Well, there have always been spells of extreme weather, long before climate change was a thing. Google "great frost of 1709" for example. You obviously missed the "increasing frequency" bit ... hair product in your eyes perhaps ? Rog
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Post by duncan on Aug 13, 2020 18:59:41 GMT
And Hammersmith Bridge has been closed due to cracks found caused by the heat
No passage over or under the bridge from 5pm tonight
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 13, 2020 19:04:25 GMT
Lot of problems with rain in Scotland at the mo, the train crash yesterday was the first time in 13 years that a passenger or crew member had been killed in a moving train accident. What were the non-moving train accidents? I meant an incident where an accident was due to operational or system failures of a moving train, obviously there have been incidents such as suicides involving trains in motion, I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before but I personally know someone who was run over by a steam train.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 20:31:09 GMT
What were the non-moving train accidents? I meant an incident where an accident was due to operational or system failures of a moving train, obviously there have been incidents such as suicides involving trains in motion, I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before but I personally know someone who was run over by a steam train. Yes but presumably that was a moving train. And I can't see why you would commit suicide using a non moving train as your chosen platform. You could shoot yourself, hang yourself, poison yourself, perhaps carbon monoxide but none of these would specifically require a train. Like I said - what were the non moving train accidents? Would these be the ones where systems failures caused injuries maybe like electric fires? I suppose it must be that sort of thing.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 13, 2020 20:50:57 GMT
I meant an incident where an accident was due to operational or system failures of a moving train, obviously there have been incidents such as suicides involving trains in motion, I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before but I personally know someone who was run over by a steam train. Yes but presumably that was a moving train. And I can't see why you would commit suicide using a non moving train as your chosen platform. You could shoot yourself, hang yourself, poison yourself, perhaps carbon monoxide but none of these would specifically require a train. Like I said - what were the non moving train accidents? Would these be the ones where systems failures caused injuries maybe like electric fires? I suppose it must be that sort of thing. I don't know, I was just reporting what The Scotsman newspaper had said. If you require further clarification then they are obviously the best people to ask. "Yesterday’s deaths were also the first fatalities on a train in Britain for 13 years, when a Glasgow-bound express derailed in Cumbria". www.scotsman.com/news/transport/fatal-train-crashes-scotlands-modern-railway-history-2940723
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 14, 2020 0:41:05 GMT
Yeah - what was that all about? Driver sees a landslip, reverses, takes the other track and makes a charge for it? Is that what you would do on your bus? Obviously not. What I did read yesterday was that the train driver reversed and took the other (northbound) track and had another go at running forward, despite the fact he thought he'd spotted a landslip - maybe there were rocks and gravel on the southbound track but the other track was clear. What I don't understand, is why then was the train going at such a speed - or perhaps it wasn't, and the bank just collapsed. I will have to read about it this weekend.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 16, 2020 4:52:36 GMT
Is that what you would do on your bus? Obviously not. What I did read yesterday was that the train driver reversed and took the other (northbound) track and had another go at running forward, despite the fact he thought he'd spotted a landslip - maybe there were rocks and gravel on the southbound track but the other track was clear. What I don't understand, is why then was the train going at such a speed - or perhaps it wasn't, and the bank just collapsed. I will have to read about it this weekend. Had a look just now (Sunday morning) and the incident is shrouded in mystery. Best I could find: "The RAIB said the train had turned back towards Aberdeen after reports of a landslip further down the track. The six-vehicle train had travelled more than a mile when it was derailed after hitting a separate landslip. (The locomotive at the front of the train continued over the bridge and fell down an embankment, as did the third passenger carriage. The first passenger carriage came to rest on its roof, at right angles to the track, with the second passenger carriage on top of it. The fourth passenger carriage remained upright and also came to rest on top of the first carriage. It was still attached to the rear locomotive.) The RAIB said the train had left Stonehaven station and passed Carmont on Wednesday morning when it was stopped by a signaller who had received a report of a landslip further along the track. The decision was taken to return to Aberdeen, and the train was routed back over a crossover at Carmont." "An off duty conductor who was travelling on the train also walked about a mile to a signal box to raise the alarm." - what? no mobile phone network / no telephone network for the train company? Nearest phone a mile away?
www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53764992www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53778891 "Prince Charles visited the scene of the crash on Friday" - gongoozler or ghoul?"This show integrity of the royals and that they do care about the people" "He's a good man. And he is so right to come out at a time like this and support the people who risk their lives helping other people." "CHARLES IS GENUINELY CONCERNED . HE IS A GOOD MAN. GOD BLESS THE PRINCE OF WALES" "Prince Charles' Duchy of Cornwall estate is blasted by community in Scilly Isles as a 'money making machine' after it hiked annual rent on its land from £100 to £7,000. Prince Charles has been criticised for increasing rent for tenants on his freehold land - with claims one went up from £100 to £7,000."
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 16, 2020 5:56:38 GMT
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