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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 17, 2020 17:20:29 GMT
I do agree that a diesel stove is a mistake, but everyone to their own. Personally I wouldn't live in a house that didn't have a stove, never mind a boat. I have to confess the lack of a stove made me stop and think, but it seemed to good to miss. He was willing to accept £50k for a 50ft boat that is less than 5 years old, everything looked well cared for and seemed to work well, and he struck me as being a very decent guy, so I'm hoping all the systems will still be in good order and that I'll probably have fewer repair bills for the next few years. He agreed to take it off the market and not have further viewings on 11th July and wait until my fund were in place, and in return I voluntarily offered him an extra 2k above his asking price as a sort of gesture of gratitude. I know, I'll never make a businessman... I'm thinking I can get a stove installed for less than a grand, if I do it myself. First thing is to get it up to Cheshire and closer to my parents, and then I'll look at sorting a stove out for it- and the concerns about diesel costs make it even more of a priority. That does indeed seem to be a good price in today's market. A brokerage advised mine is worth £25K, it's 22 years old, and only 35ft. I think what you did, offering an extra £2K was a good thing. It establishes a higher level of trust and goodwill between you and the seller. If more people behaved in a similar way, rather than trying to screw every penny out of everyone they come in contact with, the world would be a better place to live in.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 17, 2020 17:21:38 GMT
I also liveaboard, and identfy with this problem. In heatwave weather I try to wash every day. Five pairs shorts and ten pairs socks, ten Tshirts/tops. I have five white T whiteshirts which sub for PJs in hot weather, easy to wash n rise every day. I use hand towels, in preference to bath towels. I take two big bags to launderette, every 2-3 weeks.about £13. I used to have white tee shirts but they all seem to magically morph into some other colour ........ usually grey
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:27:01 GMT
Thanks magnetman, thats a good shout. I dont mind the hand washing bit, so a spinner is pretty much what I need- I'll have a closer look at that one A washing machine and spinner are nearly the same size buy a washer with a spinner so much less pain I did think about this, and I think there is enough space in the galley to squeeze a washer/spinner in on the same side as the sink (so less plumbing), but there would be some woodwork involved- it wouldn't be a quick project for me. But I think I should look at it again. The thing that made me unsure about a fully plumbed in washer is whether the 1.8kw inverter can cope with it, but there should be some low power options around. I think I'll hold off on buying a spinner for now, and have a look at the potential washer/spinner options. I've got no problem hand washing, but if a single compact machine can do both and run on low power, that looks a preferable option. I dont mind plumbing the hot water into it, but I might see if I can find a joiner to do a tidy job of carving out a space in the cupboard area.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:30:33 GMT
I have to confess the lack of a stove made me stop and think, but it seemed to good to miss. He was willing to accept £50k for a 50ft boat that is less than 5 years old, everything looked well cared for and seemed to work well, and he struck me as being a very decent guy, so I'm hoping all the systems will still be in good order and that I'll probably have fewer repair bills for the next few years. He agreed to take it off the market and not have further viewings on 11th July and wait until my fund were in place, and in return I voluntarily offered him an extra 2k above his asking price as a sort of gesture of gratitude. I know, I'll never make a businessman... I'm thinking I can get a stove installed for less than a grand, if I do it myself. First thing is to get it up to Cheshire and closer to my parents, and then I'll look at sorting a stove out for it- and the concerns about diesel costs make it even more of a priority. Is it worth considering what carpentry experience you have, and how confident you feel about altering the professionally executed woodwork of your fifty-grand boat, to say nothing of the tools you currently own to achieve the result? You make a very shrewd point Nemesis. My carpentry skills were honed in secondary school in 1974, and have been in steady decline since the triumph that was my kettle- stand thing. For the time being, I'll see if I can budget for a pro to do the woodwork- it shouldnt be a big job but it wants to be done tidily.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:34:25 GMT
God help anyone who stumbles aboard by mistake in the middle of the night. I shall have quite some explaining to do by the time they leave. If they leave. Just say you were chopping wood at the time. It worked for Kenneth Noye. ETA, I always wanted one when I lived on a boat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:40:17 GMT
I have to confess the lack of a stove made me stop and think, but it seemed to good to miss. He was willing to accept £50k for a 50ft boat that is less than 5 years old, everything looked well cared for and seemed to work well, and he struck me as being a very decent guy, so I'm hoping all the systems will still be in good order and that I'll probably have fewer repair bills for the next few years. He agreed to take it off the market and not have further viewings on 11th July and wait until my fund were in place, and in return I voluntarily offered him an extra 2k above his asking price as a sort of gesture of gratitude. I know, I'll never make a businessman... I'm thinking I can get a stove installed for less than a grand, if I do it myself. First thing is to get it up to Cheshire and closer to my parents, and then I'll look at sorting a stove out for it- and the concerns about diesel costs make it even more of a priority. That does indeed seem to be a good price in today's market. A brokerage advised mine is worth £25K, it's 22 years old, and only 35ft. I think what you did, offering an extra £2K was a good thing. It establishes a higher level of trust and goodwill between you and the seller. If more people behaved in a similar way, rather than trying to screw every penny out of everyone they come in contact with, the world would be a better place to live in. I think he had gotten a bit pessimistic about it because offers were slow in coming during the pandemic. It was up for sale in early April at 59k, which I thought was pretty decent, and it was on my shortlist the whole time I was looking. When I able to travel down there in early July, I was actually prepared to go as high as 56k as it was so new and looked in great condition, but when I asked if he was open to offers he went straight to his lowest possible price of 50k, and said he couldnt go lower than that. My thinking was that price did not seem fair, especially as he was willing to wait six weeks, so I voluntary upped my offer a bit, bearing in mind I knew I would need a stove as well. Paying more than I had to will seem crazy to many people, but it just seemed the decent thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:49:33 GMT
God help anyone who stumbles aboard by mistake in the middle of the night. I shall have quite some explaining to do by the time they leave. If they leave. Just say you were chopping wood at the time. It worked for Kenneth Noye. ETA, I always wanted one when I lived on a boat. I've spent far too long pondering ways of surviving a deadly assailant, believe me. The chances are literally millions to one against, but if it ever happens I will be spoilt for choice in selecting my weapon du jour I've actually gotten a brace of PIR sensors to stick above the bow and stern doors, so I get an early heads up of anyone stepping aboard. I've also got a pair of reinforcing locks so that the narrow stern door cant be easily kicked in, and am adding a some strengthening to the bow doors- for the time being just a padlock and chain and a couple of additional bolts. I've even pondering getting thin steel bars welded onto the window frames. The general idea is that any assailants will be slowed down enough for me to wake up and get prepared for the moment they break in, at which point several very unpleasant things will happen. This is complete and ridiculous overkill, but on the plus side I'll feel a bit less concerned if I leave the boat moored on the towpath for a few days and go travelling to visit family etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:56:36 GMT
Just say you were chopping wood at the time. It worked for Kenneth Noye. ETA, I always wanted one when I lived on a boat. I've spent far too long pondering ways of surviving a deadly assailant, believe me. The chances are literally millions to one against, but if it ever happens I will be spoilt for choice in selecting my weapon du jour I've actually gotten a brace of PIR sensors to stick above the bow and stern doors, so I get an early heads up of anyone stepping aboard. I've also got a pair of reinforcing locks so that the narrow stern door cant be easily kicked in, and am adding a some strengthening to the bow doors- for the time being just a padlock and chain and a couple of additional bolts. I've even pondering getting thin steel bars welded onto the window frames. The general idea is that any assailants will be slowed down enough for me to wake up and get prepared for the moment they break in, at which point several very unpleasant things will happen. This is complete and ridiculous overkill, but on the plus side I'll feel a bit less concerned if I leave the boat moored on the towpath for a few days and go travelling to visit family etc. Just make sure you have a quick and easy escape route (that doesn't involve you finding keys, undoing chains etc) in case the far more likely event of fire/sinking happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 17:58:33 GMT
These look pretty good Froggy, I must say- and very slim as well. Do you think this would run on a 1.8kw inverter? I can only see figures for annual power consumption, but not its normal running power
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:03:24 GMT
I've spent far too long pondering ways of surviving a deadly assailant, believe me. The chances are literally millions to one against, but if it ever happens I will be spoilt for choice in selecting my weapon du jour I've actually gotten a brace of PIR sensors to stick above the bow and stern doors, so I get an early heads up of anyone stepping aboard. I've also got a pair of reinforcing locks so that the narrow stern door cant be easily kicked in, and am adding a some strengthening to the bow doors- for the time being just a padlock and chain and a couple of additional bolts. I've even pondering getting thin steel bars welded onto the window frames. The general idea is that any assailants will be slowed down enough for me to wake up and get prepared for the moment they break in, at which point several very unpleasant things will happen. This is complete and ridiculous overkill, but on the plus side I'll feel a bit less concerned if I leave the boat moored on the towpath for a few days and go travelling to visit family etc. Just make sure you have a quick and easy escape route (that doesn't involve you finding keys, undoing chains etc) in case the far more likely event of fire/sinking happens. Yes, this is a concern I must say. I was hoping I could rig the window bars with some kind of quick release. Knowing me, I'll get going, and by the time I reach to GU I'll have decided the canals are actually the safest place on the planet, and I dont need window bars. My other option for leaving the boat unattended whilst I go visiting, is to just stick it in a marina for a few days. Its just that worry that you might get a dreaded urgent phone call when you're in a dodgy area where you wouldnt normally risk leaving it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:06:09 GMT
Just say you were chopping wood at the time. It worked for Kenneth Noye. ETA, I always wanted one when I lived on a boat. I've spent far too long pondering ways of surviving a deadly assailant, believe me. The chances are literally millions to one against, but if it ever happens I will be spoilt for choice in selecting my weapon du jour I've actually gotten a brace of PIR sensors to stick above the bow and stern doors, so I get an early heads up of anyone stepping aboard. I've also got a pair of reinforcing locks so that the narrow stern door cant be easily kicked in, and am adding a some strengthening to the bow doors- for the time being just a padlock and chain and a couple of additional bolts. I've even pondering getting thin steel bars welded onto the window frames. The general idea is that any assailants will be slowed down enough for me to wake up and get prepared for the moment they break in, at which point several very unpleasant things will happen. This is complete and ridiculous overkill, but on the plus side I'll feel a bit less concerned if I leave the boat moored on the towpath for a few days and go travelling to visit family etc. I feel it worth pointing out that it is actually quite good at chopping wood for kindling as well. But if I ever drop by I'm definitely going to knock first. BTW, you may be eating too much red meat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:21:05 GMT
I've spent far too long pondering ways of surviving a deadly assailant, believe me. The chances are literally millions to one against, but if it ever happens I will be spoilt for choice in selecting my weapon du jour I've actually gotten a brace of PIR sensors to stick above the bow and stern doors, so I get an early heads up of anyone stepping aboard. I've also got a pair of reinforcing locks so that the narrow stern door cant be easily kicked in, and am adding a some strengthening to the bow doors- for the time being just a padlock and chain and a couple of additional bolts. I've even pondering getting thin steel bars welded onto the window frames. The general idea is that any assailants will be slowed down enough for me to wake up and get prepared for the moment they break in, at which point several very unpleasant things will happen. This is complete and ridiculous overkill, but on the plus side I'll feel a bit less concerned if I leave the boat moored on the towpath for a few days and go travelling to visit family etc. I feel it worth pointing out that it is actually quite good at chopping wood for kindling as well. But if I ever drop by I'm definitely going to knock first. BTW, you may be eating too much red meat. I should probably go vegetarian for a few weeks to calm down a bit. This is all just overthinking things, due to waiting six weeks between agreeing the deal and completing it, but I do want to make the boat as secure as I can for when I have to leave it unattended, in case there's no marina handy. My hope is that an alarm might alert a nearby boater that a burglary is being attempted, and the security measures will stop at least the casual thieves whilst I'm away. I'm no chef Mr N, and I cant promise a kingly repast, but there will certainly be welcome in the parlour (and no machetes), with a beer for your good self, and indeed any forum folks who happen to be passing by. I will say, be prepared to be press-ganged into lock service as men used to be into the Royal Navy. Any visitors might find themselves drugged with grog, and wake up chained to the bow on permanent lock duty and fed gruel. In an ideal world.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 18:44:07 GMT
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 17, 2020 18:52:53 GMT
These look pretty good Froggy, I must say- and very slim as well. Do you think this would run on a 1.8kw inverter? I can only see figures for annual power consumption, but not its normal running power My understanding is that many electrical devices have a 'surge' demand on start up that can be up to twice the stated wattage. Doubtless someone more qualified than me will be along to confirm/ correct this shortly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 19:05:04 GMT
These look pretty good Froggy, I must say- and very slim as well. Do you think this would run on a 1.8kw inverter? I can only see figures for annual power consumption, but not its normal running power My understanding is that many electrical devices have a 'surge' demand on start up that can be up to twice the stated wattage. Doubtless someone more qualified than me will be along to confirm/ correct this shortly. I'm hoping one of these slimline machines will run on say 1kw, so that my inverter stands a chance, but I'm seeing more often recently that the running power for domestic appliances isnt quoted, but instead they give annual running costs
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