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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 3, 2020 9:16:11 GMT
We do this with piling pins, bank pins and windlasses we have found too ... good to recirculate them to where they're needed ... costs nothing but can be a huge help. Probably also with boats that you "have found" ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 9:54:15 GMT
Such comic genius ... you must be so proud.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 10:12:55 GMT
Someone rashly complimented him yesterday. Its a bit like putting a petri dish full of ebola in a sweaty disco.
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Post by patty on Sept 3, 2020 12:01:46 GMT
Someone rashly complimented him yesterday. Its a bit like putting a petri dish full of ebola in a sweaty disco. sorry think that was me....won't happen again...
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Post by IainS on Sept 3, 2020 12:05:10 GMT
(snip) Sounds like you need to get learning that long splice. (snip video) With modern synthetic rope, a long splice can be almost impossible to do well, as the strands can untwist, even when the ends are sealed. I see that the video maker uses the "right over left" short cut for that reason,and has carefully chosen a rope which maintains its twist. Sometimes neater, quicker and losing less rope, to do a short splice, and taper the ends, either by the traditional halfing the strands, or the "Californian Taper" where one strand stops, the other two make an extra tuck, and the one on the right (if you're splicing away from you) makes another extra tuck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 12:47:38 GMT
(snip) Sounds like you need to get learning that long splice. (snip video) With modern synthetic rope, a long splice can be almost impossible to do well, as the strands can untwist, even when the ends are sealed. I see that the video maker uses the "right over left" short cut for that reason,and has carefully chosen a rope which maintains its twist. Sometimes neater, quicker and losing less rope, to do a short splice, and taper the ends, either by the traditional halfing the strands, or the "Californian Taper" where one strand stops, the other two make an extra tuck, and the one on the right (if you're splicing away from you) makes another extra tuck. Do you consider poly-hemp rope to be suitable for a splice?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 13:04:30 GMT
I taper my splices by just adding an extra tuck to each strand after stopping one.
A long splice isn't really needed on a canal boats as the rope doesn't usually tend to be going through blocks or fairleads.
A cunt splice is another option for joining two parts of a broken rope of course but they are quite bulky. It may be easier to form one of these than a short splice on some types of rope though.
You lose more length with the cunt splice option than with a short splice.
The reason it might be easier is you are not trying to re-lay an unlaid rope, rather you are in effect forming two eye splices which involve tucking strands into already laid sections of rope. In slippery or softly laid rope this might end up being a more secure option and is better than knotting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 13:34:59 GMT
I taper my splices by just adding an extra tuck to each strand after stopping one. This would appear to be the 'Californian Taper'. A long splice isn't really needed on a canal boats as the rope doesn't usually tend to be going through blocks or fairleads. But it is neater and will run better in such circumstances if they come up.A cunt splice is another option for joining two parts of a broken rope of course but they are quite bulky. It may be easier to form one of these than a short splice on some types of rope though. You lose more length with the cunt splice option than with a short splice. And you enjoy profanity simply for the shock value. But I guess that is the point of such things.The reason it might be easier is you are not trying to re-lay an unlaid rope, rather you are in effect forming two eye splices which involve tucking strands into already laid sections of rope. This is what happens in any splice - short, long, eye, whatever. In slippery or softly laid rope this might end up being a more secure option and is better than knotting. Any splice is better than knotting. Also, this is why the 'Double Fisherman's Bend' is useful because it isn't a knot. Its a bend.
PS now that you mention it I can see a good use for the cunt as part of a jib-sheet system.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 13:49:27 GMT
No it's the correct term.
I dislike the concept of losing original terminology especially in boating terms.
If it's rude so be it, it is the correct terminology to use.
Correct that all splices involve tucking into already laid rope. My brain not working properly on account of the ibuprofen codeine I'm taking to try and lose this disabling back problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 13:59:47 GMT
No it's the correct term. I dislike the concept of losing original terminology especially in boating terms. If it's rude so be it, it is the correct terminology to use. Correct that all splices involve tucking into already laid rope. My brain not working properly on account of the ibuprofen codeine I'm taking to try and lose this disabling back problem. It may not be:The etymology of the first part this term is obscure, there are obvious reasons why it may have been suppressed or forgotten. It probably derives from various Norse or Scandinavian words for 'knot', such as cnut. Harthacnut, the name of a decendant of King Canute or Cnut the Great, means 'tough knot' (compare Middle Dutch cnudde, from Proto-Germanic *knuttan-; cognate with knod, English knot, Frisian knotte, Danish knude, Norwegian knute, Swedish knut, etc). A cut splice is essentially splicing a cut rope back together with a knot, and the term may have been compounded or corrupted by British sailors from a phrase such as 'cut-knot splice'. Or, as it is formed with the butts of two ropes, and often performed on a wooden block called a butt or a bitt, the term 'butt-splice' may have been vulgarised or associated with a Dutch term for the technique, as the Dutch cont can mean butt, bottom, vagina.
I hope your back improves. Bear in mind that painkillers only mask the issue and may lead to further injury.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 14:26:32 GMT
Apparently doctors prescribe ibuprofen for this sort of thing.
If it carries on much longer I will get it checked out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 14:46:33 GMT
Apparently doctors prescribe ibuprofen for this sort of thing. If it carries on much longer I will get it checked out. Naproxen is better. I always have some just in case, it also works well with my gout.
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Post by brummieboy on Sept 3, 2020 15:51:52 GMT
We met a boat at a bridge hole off a sharp bend with very overgrown offside vegetation, so no chance either of us could see ... consequently we were both travelling slowly so no chance of a collision. I elected to reverse out of the way (mainly as I didn't want to drag my flower pots through the trees) but the opposing boat just kept coming forwards making life unnecessarily difficult, rather than just hanging back a few seconds whilst I was sorted. i had a similar experience on the South Oxford, at a right handed right angle bend, well vegetated. I travel in these places at a speed where I can stop, but the small boat coming the other way had no option but to bounce off the bank and then my boat. I reversed and managed to straighten out on the left hand bank, offering him the 'wrong' side. All he did was place his bows between mine and the bank, shouting all the time PASS ON THE RIGHT! PASS ON THE RIGHT!!!!! One of his 3 children was crying after being thrown down in the front cockpit in the collision, but he carried on and soon rebuilt his 18" wash on the banks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 16:19:32 GMT
It's a real nuisance when you get someone who doesn't understand that passing on the "wrong side" is appropriate in certain situations. Obviously it takes a bit of knowledge to work it out quickly and even if you did do two blasts of your horn he was probably too ignorant to know what that means.
I heard an idiot recently blasting his horn twice as he entered a narrow backwater which leads to a marina.
He was in a reasonably wide boat, a Sealine 40 or similar. If I had been coming the other way I would assume that his intention was to pass green to green for some reason perhaps due to his draught.
What he meant was "my boat is coming" for which the correct sounding is one long blast, which also indicates your intention to pass any oncoming traffic as usual.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 16:21:16 GMT
Apparently doctors prescribe ibuprofen for this sort of thing. If it carries on much longer I will get it checked out. Looks like it's not an OTC option and as I am someone who does not visit the quack until I am half dead I guess it will be ibuprofen for me at least for now.
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