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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 7:09:40 GMT
What's it like the next day? Same as the day before, he's had it for about a year. Gazza. Easy to knock with zero evidence, but these things are good, and cheap. Were we not used to paying appallingly greedy prices for Webasto and Eberspacher perhaps it wouldn't seem so cheap. I’ve fitted 2 x Thermo tops, 1 x Wallas 40D, 4 x Ebespacher D2 and a D4. All we’re easy to install and well made. ive only been involved with a Planair from a distance - by choice! A fair bit of time and money needs spending to fit them safely and in the case of boats to make them BSS compliant. I simply can’t trust the plethora of knock offs that has only been around a short while, the risks associated with catastrophic failure are just too high. I didn’t want to put my name to something that could result in injury or loss, it was as simple as that. At least if a Webasto or Eberspacher goes tits you can be sure ar worst it will shut down and cost money to put right, I can’t put that level of faith in a cheap unit - remember; pay a little you stand to loose everything..... Time will tell with these knock offs, good luck to those that try, I will have the least to do with them as I can! |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 5, 2020 7:59:57 GMT
I met a chap converting an army truck into a go anywhere camper - impressive vehicle. Anyway he said he had got one and it was ok. Way cheaper than a webaspacher. I'll leave this here.... Credit John Ruskin 👍 “There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person’s lawful prey. It’s unwise to pay too much, but it’s worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money — that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot — it can’t be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.” He should have practiced what he preached and gone to the extra cost of building his house with a cavity wall, rather than being a cheapskate. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 8:15:31 GMT
Same as the day before, he's had it for about a year. Gazza. Easy to knock with zero evidence, but these things are good, and cheap. Were we not used to paying appallingly greedy prices for Webasto and Eberspacher perhaps it wouldn't seem so cheap. I’ve fitted 2 x Thermo tops, 1 x Wallas 40D, 4 x Ebespacher D2 and a D4. All we’re easy to install and well made. ive only been involved with a Planair from a distance - by choice! A fair bit of time and money needs spending to fit them safely and in the case of boats to make them BSS compliant. I simply can’t trust the plethora of knock offs that has only been around a short while, the risks associated with catastrophic failure are just too high. I didn’t want to put my name to something that could result in injury or loss, it was as simple as that. At least if a Webasto or Eberspacher goes tits you can be sure ar worst it will shut down and cost money to put right, I can’t put that level of faith in a cheap unit - remember; pay a little you stand to loose everything..... Time will tell with these knock offs, good luck to those that try, I will have the least to do with them as I can! That's why I have homed in on the one I mentioned. Precisely because it requires minimal installation. Only thing you would need to do is arrange an exhaust port. It would be in addition to the solid fuel stove. I would not advocate it as a sole heating system on a boat. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 8:24:52 GMT
I know several people who have them. On start up they draw between 9-12 amps, and average 1-2 amps from then on (this is very dependent on the selected heat setting obviously). The fuel consumption is considerably more than the quotes stated in the sales bumf. They are well built and push out a considerable amount of heat, even on the lower setting. They are not overly noisy with a silencer fitted, but I doubt you could have one on overnight if fitted to a cabin. The most annoying noise comes from the little pump.
The newer models are becoming increasingly popular, I'm even considering one for myself just as a reserve heating source.
The average fuel running is about half a litre an hour on full pelt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 8:31:40 GMT
I reckon it would want to be run from an independent battery attached to the main system with a VSR. To take out the risk of bringing down the main batteries.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 8:37:40 GMT
I reckon it would want to be run from an independent battery attached to the main system with a VSR. To take out the risk of bringing down the main batteries. That's what most do, and have a dedicated solar panel and controller. They are definitely more economical to use than my webasto, and hugely less expensive to buy. Parts are a lot cheaper as well. |
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Post by lollygagger on Sept 5, 2020 8:42:15 GMT
I reckon it would want to be run from an independent battery attached to the main system with a VSR. To take out the risk of bringing down the main batteries. That's what most do, and have a dedicated solar panel and controller. They are definitely more economical to use than my webasto, and hugely less expensive to buy. Parts are a lot cheaper as well. You could buy 2 of those for the price of a thermotop service kit and have change. |
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