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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 19:27:20 GMT
I wonder if I can trouble the chaps who know about engines for an opinion?
In the morning when I first start my engine, there is a fair bit of greyish smoke for about 5 seconds, after which it disappears and the exhaust fumes are all but invisible for the rest of the time it is running.
I remember reading somewhere years ago that a car engine cold starting and producing smoke, even for a short while, was a sign of a head gasket problem- so I wondered if the cold-start smoke on a diesel is also bad news?
Its not huge clouds, but it is definitely noticeable. Its only done 600 hours in the last five years, and that can also lead to some issues.
The previous owner was a stickler for maintenance in all aspects, and I think its likely it has been serviced fully (I'll dig it out later)- but I'm wondering if it might be worth asking a boatyard to look at it more closely, over the next month or two.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 19:36:05 GMT
40 a day smoker for best part of 30+ years - so no not really bad.
Oops must read the question and not the headline...
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 5, 2020 19:58:23 GMT
40 a day smoker for best part of 30+ years - so no not really bad. Fags and Kentucky fried chicken = early grave. Why do you smoke so much?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 20:00:14 GMT
40 a day smoker for best part of 30+ years - so no not really bad. Fags and Kentucky fried chicken = early grave. Why do you smoke so much? Only way I can put up with you!
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 5, 2020 20:01:26 GMT
The previous owner was a stickler for maintenance in all aspects. Changing the engine oil often will do no harm. Do not believe in the term 'service', but keep a list of what maintenance has been done, and a calendar to jot down the next times these things need doing.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 5, 2020 20:25:20 GMT
I wonder if I can trouble the chaps who know about engines for an opinion? In the morning when I first start my engine, there is a fair bit of greyish smoke for about 5 seconds, after which it disappears and the exhaust fumes are all but invisible for the rest of the time it is running. I remember reading somewhere years ago that a car engine cold starting and producing smoke, even for a short while, was a sign of a head gasket problem- so I wondered if the cold-start smoke on a diesel is also bad news? Its not huge clouds, but it is definitely noticeable. Its only done 600 hours in the last five years, and that can also lead to some issues. The previous owner was a stickler for maintenance in all aspects, and I think its likely it has been serviced fully (I'll dig it out later)- but I'm wondering if it might be worth asking a boatyard to look at it more closely, over the next month or two. I think this is entirely normal, don’t worry about it. When our Beta 43 was brand new it didn’t smoke at all but now it has done nearly 4000hrs there is a bit of smoke on a cold start as you describe. After a few moments it disappears.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 20:30:18 GMT
If it's a copy of a working boat with a roof top exhaust and splitter I think smoking is compulsory Grown ups will be along with more accurate replies, but if the smoke quickly clears, all should be well . Rog ETA Crikey ... we've done 2,800 hours on our 'new' 2017 engine already !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 20:30:47 GMT
The little smoke at start-up from cold is nothing.
Is the service book stamped up? The 650 hour service is due soon...I notice there is a dealer/agent at Braunston, but there's also another near Chester.
If the oil has been changed in accordance with the service schedule then that's three changes in five years, (one after 50 hours) so another soon will not hurt.
There are a number of things mentioned in the owners book which you are supposed to check and service as you go along. Have you read it?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 5, 2020 20:34:00 GMT
It's just diesel which has not fully combusted because the engine is cold and the piston rings haven't started to completely seal and if it clears after a few seconds then it's nothing to be concerned about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 20:50:02 GMT
The little smoke at start-up from cold is nothing. Is the service book stamped up? The 650 hour service is due soon...I notice there is a dealer/agent at Braunston, but there's also another near Chester. If the oil has been changed in accordance with the service schedule then that's three changes in five years, (one after 50 hours) so another soon will not hurt. There are a number of things mentioned in the owners book which you are supposed to check and service as you go along. Have you read it? Its about 40 hours till the 650hr service is due officially, but I'm guessing when the time is unusually long between services, it might be worth getting it done earlier- eg the 450 hr service was 2 years ago, so I feel an oils change would be very helpful asap. I'll look for a reputable place to do the service somewhere on the GU as I head North. Thanks to my buddy having a diesel shortage we lost over two hours today, so only got as far as Irthlingborough. Fingers crossed we should be roughly around Billing tomorrow night, and then up to Northampton and the GU on Monday, and then I'll have time to sort a few things out.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 5, 2020 21:02:55 GMT
The little smoke at start-up from cold is nothing. Is the service book stamped up? The 650 hour service is due soon...I notice there is a dealer/agent at Braunston, but there's also another near Chester. If the oil has been changed in accordance with the service schedule then that's three changes in five years, (one after 50 hours) so another soon will not hurt. There are a number of things mentioned in the owners book which you are supposed to check and service as you go along. Have you read it? I'll look for a reputable place to do the service somewhere on the GU as I head North. Engine servicing is something you really need to learn to do yourself. Not just for the cost saving but to monitor the heart of your boat, to look for changes and anticipate issues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 21:05:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 21:09:37 GMT
I'll look for a reputable place to do the service somewhere on the GU as I head North. Engine servicing is something you really need to learn to do yourself. Not just for the cost saving but to monitor the heart of your boat, to look for changes and anticipate issues. Tbh I've just been having a look and I'm ok to do the oil and filters, but the drive belt needs checking and a few other things, so I might leave the next service to a pro. I've noticed also the guidance is to change the oil at most every year if the engine hours dont go high enough to trigger a service, and that hasnt been done in 2019 so its actually well overdue.
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Post by brummieboy on Sept 5, 2020 21:11:28 GMT
The previous owner was a stickler for maintenance in all aspects. and a calendar to jot down the next times these things need doing. And DO THEM even if you are halfway through Braunston Tunnel!!!!! Seriously, diesel engines rely on compression for ignition and starting from cold, especially using heater plugs, for the short time you notice it, I would not be worried. Just maintain the service schedule, and remember, if something does start to go wrong, it never gets better. Over time, you will get used to little variances with fuel and the like, and the way in which the weather has slightly different effects on engine performance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 21:13:11 GMT
Thanks Nemesis, if I cant find someone within a few days of gayton junction I'll just do the oil and filters myself so that at least part is not delayed further
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