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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 8:00:27 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 8:11:19 GMT
“ green/blue linear parks”. Blue? Does he mean the water? I have never seen any blue canal water. Well apart from that infested with the toxic blue green algae. Or maybe he is referring to pleasant surroundings “embellished” with gaudy bright blue signs?
Anyway, personally I don’t have any problem with towpath improvements for use by walkers if paid for externally. It is only the speeding cyclists that can be a problem. Jeff likes to go running on the towpath so I’m sure he will approve.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:14:22 GMT
The cyclists will be in charge. Mark my words.
The only way to rid the towpaths of the vermin cyclists is for all walkers to refuse to give way. I don't mean deliberately blocking cyclists I mean not altering your pattern simply to allow them past.
They can pass when it is safe.
People need to do this if they wish to keep towpaths safe for pedestrians.
How about a "reclaim our paths" movement like the cyclists do a "reclaim our streets" ?
Just tell them to do one.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 8:30:53 GMT
The cyclists will be in charge. Mark my words. The only way to rid the towpaths of the vermin cyclists is for all walkers to refuse to give way. I don't mean deliberately blocking cyclists I mean not altering your pattern simply to allow them past. They can pass when it is safe. People need to do this if they wish to keep towpaths safe for pedestrians. How about a "reclaim our paths" movement like the cyclists do a "reclaim our streets" ? Just tell them to do one. It’s a difficult balance. On the one hand, if one can move aside for cyclists and runners with zero effort, why not? There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. On the other hand, some cyclists do ride furiously and rely on people jumping out of the way or else there will be a collision. It would be nice if people could respect other people’s needs in a “share nicely” sort of way, but it ain’t gonna happen! |
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 8:31:06 GMT
It’s all about cart getting more money.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 8:31:32 GMT
It’s all about cart getting more money. Is that a bad thing? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:36:27 GMT
The cyclists will be in charge. Mark my words. The only way to rid the towpaths of the vermin cyclists is for all walkers to refuse to give way. I don't mean deliberately blocking cyclists I mean not altering your pattern simply to allow them past. They can pass when it is safe. People need to do this if they wish to keep towpaths safe for pedestrians. How about a "reclaim our paths" movement like the cyclists do a "reclaim our streets" ? Just tell them to do one. It’s a difficult balance. On the one hand, if one can move aside for cyclists and runners with zero effort, why not? There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. On the other hand, some cyclists do ride furiously and rely on people jumping out of the way or else there will be a collision. It would be nice if people could respect other people’s needs in a “share nicely” sort of way, but it ain’t gonna happen! I'm not talking about deliberately blocking people. I did mention that in my post. I think walkers should behave as if the cyclists don't exist and let the cyclists find their way or use an alternative route if their aim is rapid transit. It's simple really. Just be deaf. |
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 8:38:03 GMT
It’s all about cart getting more money. Is that a bad thing? If they didn’t waste so much on a management heavy structure and didn’t then waste lots more on the sub contracting process. Then it would be a good thing. If the towpath improvements included more bins and toilet facilities for all of these “new” towpath users, then it would be a good thing. But as it is, it’s just carts management trying to get more government money poured in the trough. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:43:39 GMT
They can't risk putting in towpath bins because they will instantly be filled by residential boaters.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 8:44:09 GMT
It’s a difficult balance. On the one hand, if one can move aside for cyclists and runners with zero effort, why not? There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. On the other hand, some cyclists do ride furiously and rely on people jumping out of the way or else there will be a collision. It would be nice if people could respect other people’s needs in a “share nicely” sort of way, but it ain’t gonna happen! I'm not talking about deliberately blocking people. I did mention that in my post. I think walkers should behave as if the cyclists don't exist and let the cyclists find their way or use an alternative route if their aim is rapid transit. It's simple really. Just be deaf. It’s a bit like grumpy obnoxious boaters - there aren’t many around (they have all congregated here) but you tend to notice them far more than the 99% of boaters who are perfectly pleasant. So it is with cyclists, there are plenty of polite one who slow down, give a ting, we move aside and they say “thank you”. But the ones you remember are the ones who go hurtling past missing you by inches. Mostly commuters, I suggest, so it is mostly an urban problem. |
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 8:47:50 GMT
It’s a difficult balance. On the one hand, if one can move aside for cyclists and runners with zero effort, why not? There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. On the other hand, some cyclists do ride furiously and rely on people jumping out of the way or else there will be a collision. It would be nice if people could respect other people’s needs in a “share nicely” sort of way, but it ain’t gonna happen! I'm not talking about deliberately blocking people. I did mention that in my post. I think walkers should behave as if the cyclists don't exist and let the cyclists find their way or use an alternative route if their aim is rapid transit. It's simple really. Just be deaf. In my opinion walking in the middle of the path and not changing your position when a cyclist approaches, is deliberately blocking. It’s just like slow boats with faster boats behind - no virtue in sitting in the middle of the canal saying “I’m going quite fast enough, one mustn’t rush on the canals”. Just move over a bit and let the faster boat pass. Common courtesy and acknowledgement that not everyone is in exactly the same situation as oneself. We don’t exist on this planet in isolation so let’s not pretend that we do. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:50:38 GMT
But the ones you remember are the ones who go hurtling past missing you by inches. Mostly commuters, I suggest, so it is mostly an urban problem. The link kris put up was specifically referring to encouraging walking on towpaths in urban areas. Yes. Urban. That's what the topic is about. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:51:22 GMT
I'm not talking about deliberately blocking people. I did mention that in my post. I think walkers should behave as if the cyclists don't exist and let the cyclists find their way or use an alternative route if their aim is rapid transit. It's simple really. Just be deaf. In my opinion walking in the middle of the path and not changing your position when a cyclist approaches, is deliberately blocking. It’s just like slow boats with faster boats behind - no virtue in sitting in the middle of the canal saying “I’m going quite fast enough, one mustn’t rush on the canals”. Just move over a bit and let the faster boat pass. Common courtesy and acknowledgement that not everyone is in exactly the same situation as oneself. We don’t exist on this planet in isolation so let’s not pretend that we do. Why do you think I would walk in the middle of the path? Perfectly happy for cyclists to pass but if they are able to make people dive to the side by just using a bell as if a fire engine was coming then something is very wrong somewhere. I'm sure there are many many people who would like to have a nice walk by the cut but do not because of the perceived threat level. It will be interesting to see how CRT deal with this. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:58:04 GMT
I'd like to see more obstructions.
Things like benches placed at an angle so people can sit and look at the canal while at the same time causing cyclists to slow down. That could work.
Chicanes have been added here and there proving that some people will just not cycle responsibly because they are idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 9:17:16 GMT
Before they start fucking about with the towpaths, they need to engage with vegetation management.
As usual it's all ass about face and just another crt "scam" to get extra government funding because the useless CEO and chair can't spell initiative, let alone find any.
I've nothing against crt encouraging extended government funding, after all, it's the only way they can get any income from the walkers, cyclists and dog shitters.
It is time for parry and Leighton to come up with initiatives though, if they can't, then fuck off.
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