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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 9:21:28 GMT
But the ones you remember are the ones who go hurtling past missing you by inches. Mostly commuters, I suggest, so it is mostly an urban problem. The link kris put up was specifically referring to encouraging walking on towpaths in urban areas. Yes. Urban. That's what the topic is about. I know. That is why I mentioned it specifically.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 10, 2020 9:26:08 GMT
It wouldn't be an instant solution but boaters could start assisting CRT with their hedge pruning operations. Rather than disposing of the hawthorn cuttings in an approved manner they could instead scatter them widely, up and down the towpaths close to them. The towpaths might then be 'improved', but getting a puncture every mile or so isn't the best thing really, if you like to cycle.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 10, 2020 9:42:08 GMT
The cyclists will be in charge. Mark my words. The only way to rid the towpaths of the vermin cyclists is for all walkers to refuse to give way. I don't mean deliberately blocking cyclists I mean not altering your pattern simply to allow them past. They can pass when it is safe. People need to do this if they wish to keep towpaths safe for pedestrians. How about a "reclaim our paths" movement like the cyclists do a "reclaim our streets" ? Just tell them to do one. There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. Who cares about virtue? Oh, yes, dogless.
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 10, 2020 9:54:28 GMT
There is no virtue in blocking the towpath just to make a point. Who cares about virtue? Oh, yes, dogless. There is an important difference between virtue, and virtue signalling. The latter rarely contains any actual virtue. It’s virtual virtue.
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 11:42:57 GMT
They can't risk putting in towpath bins because they will instantly be filled by residential boaters. Ha ha ha, very funny. But I’m sure anybody else wouldn’t be allowed to invite lots of members of the public to use their facilities with providing adequate toilets and refuse disposal for said visitors.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 11:51:48 GMT
They can't risk putting in towpath bins because they will instantly be filled by residential boaters. Ha ha ha, very funny. But I’m sure anybody else wouldn’t be allowed to invite lots of members of the public to use their facilities with providing adequate toilets and refuse disposal for said visitors. There arrrr plenty of parks with no toilets but yes normally you do get bins in public parks. It would be quite tricky to stop them getting filled by boaters and of course let's not forget anglers.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 10, 2020 12:25:19 GMT
They can't risk putting in towpath bins because they will instantly be filled by residential boaters. Ha ha ha, very funny. But I’m sure anybody else wouldn’t be allowed to invite lots of members of the public to use their facilities with providing adequate toilets and refuse disposal for said visitors. national parks, national trust etc all have land and do not put many facilities in.
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 14:38:27 GMT
Ha ha ha, very funny. But I’m sure anybody else wouldn’t be allowed to invite lots of members of the public to use their facilities with providing adequate toilets and refuse disposal for said visitors. national parks, national trust etc all have land and do not put many facilities in. really, what about car parks? Where there are bins? And not always but sometimes toilets? Just because they don’t have them every 10ms doesn’t mean they don’t have them. At least they had these things last time I went to a NT property.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 10, 2020 14:42:20 GMT
national parks, national trust etc all have land and do not put many facilities in. really, what about car parks? Where there are bins? Sod car parks and bins - what about that starving boater from whom CRT stole his boat, and his tools which are worth thousands of Pounds? Since it was brought up that he is a foreigner, not another peep out of you.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 10, 2020 14:49:07 GMT
national parks, national trust etc all have land and do not put many facilities in. really, what about car parks? Where there are bins? And not always but sometimes toilets? Just because they don’t have them every 10ms doesn’t mean they don’t have them. At least they had these things last time I went to a NT property. I'm not talking about properties, but land such as scafell pike, there's a car park, which might have a bin in but I've been up the mountain and there is definitely no toilets or bins. But CRT have car parks too.
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 14:58:31 GMT
really, what about car parks? Where there are bins? And not always but sometimes toilets? Just because they don’t have them every 10ms doesn’t mean they don’t have them. At least they had these things last time I went to a NT property. I'm not talking about properties, but land such as scafell pike, there's a car park, which might have a bin in but I've been up the mountain and there is definitely no toilets or bins. But CRT have car parks too. cart don’t really have that many big open areas like scafell pike. I’m sure you’ll find a bin in the car park or near picnic areas etc. Which is more than cart do. Personally I don’t think it’s okay for all the cyclists and ramblers to have to pee in the hedge along the towpath. They don’t even have toilets for the general public at tourist hot spots like bingley five rise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 15:05:57 GMT
It's a fair point if they are advertising towpaths as somewhere to spend a day out but then CRT would also have to offer things like picnic areas which I don't think they are doing. And even camping areas.
I would suggest that the aim is for local canals to be used by local people for short amounts of time which would not involve toileting arrangements.
Once local canals are used or "adopted" by local people then perhaps discussions can be had with local authorities about management of towpaths, and maybe even moorings.
They'll get there in the end...
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Post by kris on Sept 10, 2020 15:08:21 GMT
Shut the fuck up about local authorities managing towpaths. It really is a hobby horse of yours it seems.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 10, 2020 15:18:22 GMT
I'm not talking about properties, but land such as scafell pike, there's a car park, which might have a bin in but I've been up the mountain and there is definitely no toilets or bins. But CRT have car parks too. cart don’t really have that many big open areas like scafell pike. I’m sure you’ll find a bin in the car park or near picnic areas etc. Which is more than cart do. Personally I don’t think it’s okay for all the cyclists and ramblers to have to pee in the hedge along the towpath. They don’t even have toilets for the general public at tourist hot spots like bingley five rise. they don't but they have long distance footpaths, ive never come across a trail with bins or toilets. there are very good reasons we don't put bins in the country side Animal's will just empty them out daily, you should see the mess seagulls make around here. Even the seagull proof bins are not safe. Who will empty them all on a daily basis? They can't even look after the facilities they do provide. In urban areas there is normally facilities available nearby and if there isn't why should it be CRT's responsibility to install them.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 10, 2020 15:22:43 GMT
Are the Biffa bins at the back of CRT's head office in Milton Keynes overflowing?
Somehow I think not.
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