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Post by Telemachus on Sept 20, 2020 22:04:00 GMT
Are you tied up to rings or piling? If so, it should be possible to tie your boat up and have a couple of fenders such that the boat doesnβt move around much. Only if you are on pins is that harder (because the pins tend to pull through the ground). Please do not take your cue for how to tie up by looking at other boats. 90% of them havenβt a clue! The main force acting on the boat is a fore/aft one, and yet so many people have their lines at 90 deg to the boat, which is the worst possible direction to resist a fore/aft pull. If you have you lines at 45degrees or so, they stand a chance of resisting the fore/aft pull. Or if you really want to tie you boat up properly, have additional long lines at a shallow angle (called springs) to take the fore/aft pull. Yes, I've read about the benefits of springs. Tightening up the lines certainly helped today, and I think springs will help even more, but I dont have a lot of spare rope yet, so I'll add springs when I next moor up for 5 days, which I think will be a week on Monday. We got some fairly chunky polyhemp rope from the boatyard /chandlery just along the Middlewich from Barbridge Jn. It was Β£1 per metre which seemed pretty cheap.
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Post by Trina on Sept 20, 2020 22:22:27 GMT
We were once going slowly past the long term moorings at Wheaton Aston,when a bloke popped up out of his engine hole.He then loudly berated us(using lots of very interesting adjectives) for being too fast.We actually,literally stopped 'on a sixpence'next to his boat as we were going so slowly.We then had a very interesting discussion about real speed & imagined speed.I have to admit,it's me with the gob-Paul just smiles & makes comments like 'It's half past three' or 'Yes,the weather's lovely'.The bloke was really aggressive til' we stopped by him & then he said that maybe we seemed fast as he was down in the engine hole...I then smiled sweetly at him & told him he was an ignorant twunt !πππ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 7:32:37 GMT
I never understood why people have narrow boats on narrow canals yet have enormous problems dealing with other boats coming past.
It just seems bizarre to deliberately put yourself in a position where you feel uncomfortable each time a boat moves.
If you don't like it then why have a narrow boat on a narrow canal?
Totally illogical from a personal comfort point of view. Maybe it's some sort of self punishment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 8:08:54 GMT
I think it's part and parcel of the same 'grumpy phenomenon' that causes road rage and general intolerance and anger which some days seems to be everywhere.
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Post by lollygagger on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:03 GMT
Another plus for marina life.
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2020 9:15:39 GMT
Another plus for marina life. Must be one of the very few.
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Post by lollygagger on Sept 21, 2020 9:28:41 GMT
Another plus for marina life. Must be one of the very few. It just makes me chuckle that canal orientated people often point to the proximity of others in a marina being a no-no for them. From reading this kind of thread I guess for them it would be! Maybe all the short tempered grumpy type of boat owners choose to try and get away from others by being out on the canals where who do they meet? lol For the record my tongue is firmly in my cheek.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 9:49:36 GMT
I love marinas ... don't want to be onboard in one, but they're good safe spaces and very many boats enter a marina never to appear on the canals again Rog
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2020 9:57:34 GMT
Must be one of the very few. It just makes me chuckle that canal orientated people often point to the proximity of others in a marina being a no-no for them. From reading this kind of thread I guess for them it would be! Maybe all the short tempered grumpy type of boat owners choose to try and get away from others by being out on the canals where who do they meet? lol For the record my tongue is firmly in my cheek. Marinas just arenβt for me, I donβt mind old School boat yards, but these seem to be disappearing quickly.
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Post by lollygagger on Sept 21, 2020 10:59:59 GMT
It just makes me chuckle that canal orientated people often point to the proximity of others in a marina being a no-no for them. From reading this kind of thread I guess for them it would be! Maybe all the short tempered grumpy type of boat owners choose to try and get away from others by being out on the canals where who do they meet? lol For the record my tongue is firmly in my cheek. Marinas just arenβt for me, I donβt mind old School boat yards, but these seem to be disappearing quickly. It's funy, I never had any intention to stay in a marina for more than a few weeks while I came to terms with what I'd bought. 4 years on it turns out that I'm extremely lazy given half the chance and it's so peaceful here... One day we'll have it painted and solared up and head off...one day. We've taken a whole year off painting with the virus excuse so it'll be a year or two yet. One day...
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Post by patty on Sept 21, 2020 11:19:12 GMT
EAch to their own, I didn't really like either Marina I used.... My choices not my own at that time in life..now I'd just sling my anchor elsewhere. I liked time spent mooring side of towpath in quiet places. I didn't ever shout slow down but I did have words with a hirer that went into the side of my boat with the front of his...his wife had been steering and when she realised crash inevitable she disappeared inside leaving him to attempt the impossible...I didn't say much but he didn't apologise and that I was tad annoyed over..I'm not quite sure how on earth she managed to get the boat coming at me like she did...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 13:36:38 GMT
..I'm not quite sure how on earth she managed to get the boat coming at me like she did... It's easy to forget that tiller steering is counter intuitive. You have to reverse your brain to get the thing to work. It's not a problem for people who are used to it but if you are put in charge and get into a situation you are not familiar with then it would be easy to default to what the brain is telling you "push the tiller to the right to go right". Like a car steering wheel. That could easily result in a slightly ridiculous approach angle towards another boat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 14:37:29 GMT
Marinas just arenβt for me, I donβt mind old School boat yards, but these seem to be disappearing quickly. It's funy, I never had any intention to stay in a marina for more than a few weeks while I came to terms with what I'd bought. 4 years on it turns out that I'm extremely lazy given half the chance and it's so peaceful here... One day we'll have it painted and solared up and head off...one day. We've taken a whole year off painting with the virus excuse so it'll be a year or two yet. One day... I totally get this about liking the comfort and familiarity of staying in one place, especially if its a really nice area. It also makes it easy to keep a car or motorbike there, so you have easy transport as well. The other benefit as someone said earlier is not being wobbled every so often by passing boats- not that its a big deal most of the time, but life would be that teeny bit nicer without it. I have already found that if I stop in a secure location like a marina for more than one night, I start to feel pychologically 'settled', as odd as that sounds- and it would be very easy to imagine staying put for a month or more. Once I get up to Cheshire and its gets cold and the towpaths start getting muddy, I can totally see myself doing a few weeks in a marina. But that said, I will always go back to cruising. I have found I enjoy bumping into random people whilst cruising. People don't always behave at their best holding the tiller, but they are nearly all great when you chat to them moored up.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 21, 2020 15:29:01 GMT
Couldn't stand being in the marina. Sam couldn't get her head around the fact that even if we went for a night, I would take it out onto the cut.
We never use campsites that line people up in rows either.
At tick over we used to upset loads of people on the K&A.
It doesn't help that boats are moored quite far out with loose ropes in loose banks.
But as our boat never became unpinned or hardly moved, I put it down that they should have tied it up better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 15:31:28 GMT
I reckon there are some people who deliberately tie up badly and when the opportunity comes they have a go at someone.
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