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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 27, 2020 19:57:30 GMT
They will still be useless unless you get them more than a foot into the ground. The best ones are so long that when you bang 'em in they'll skewer a twat in Australia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 20:10:43 GMT
There is no substitute for length and girth, mine are 900mm long and 94mm in girth. I drive them in about 750mm with an 10lb sledge hammer. They don't come out in a hurry Length & girth...ooh er matron.😁 I assume you did the whole 2πR thing here rather than assuming that the item was 94mm (almost 4 inches!!) wide.. In reality it will be approximately 1.177997 inches in diameter. Or in metric about 3 centimetres. This is very
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 20:23:09 GMT
There is no substitute for length and girth, mine are 900mm long and 94mm in girth. I drive them in about 750mm with an 10lb sledge hammer. They don't come out in a hurry The problem is getting then out afterwards. That is where the screw-type thing wins out - to get them out (or in) you screw them instead of bashing and straining. A strong lever helps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 20:28:08 GMT
People on narrow boats underestimate the value of a strong boarding plank.
You use it to lever the boat off if you go aground a bit and it can also be used with a bit of rope to lift heavily embedded pins out if done right. If necessary it can also be used as a boarding plank.
I suspect most people think of it as a boarding plank but in reality it is a multi purpose tool which you use as and when and always make sure it is in good condition because if you do use it as a boarding plank you do not want it breaking..
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 27, 2020 22:05:29 GMT
However hard the ground, however far you knock mooring pins in, your boat will never be as tight against the bank after a couple of days as it would be if you have the luxury of Armco next to you.
The best advice is to use mooring pins in pairs. That is, 2 at the front and 2 at the back. I haven't yet worked out whether it's best to knock a mooring pin through the 'eye' of the other one, or at an angle to the direction you expect the first one to be ripped out by a passing boater, who gets satisfaction from travelling at 3mph rather than 2.
One thing is for certain. That is, it's much easier to avoid having your pins pulled out during the summer rather than in the winter. Once November is upon us the ground everwhere is soft. There again, far fewer boats pass during the winter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 6:58:03 GMT
There is no substitute for length and girth, mine are 900mm long and 94mm in girth. I drive them in about 750mm with an 10lb sledge hammer. They don't come out in a hurry The problem is getting then out afterwards. That is where the screw-type thing wins out - to get them out (or in) you screw them instead of bashing and straining. A strong lever helps. I have no problem getting them out, hit them with the sledge hammer from four directions to loosen them then, with my legs bent, rope through the eye of the stake and over my shoulders and push up with my legs and out they slide. Easy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 10:54:04 GMT
Tony,
If you are mooring between Rugby and Coventry and not on piling watch the rocks that line the bank..
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Post by patty on Sept 28, 2020 11:45:05 GMT
So I'm the only boater in england who cant drive those bloody pins in the full way? Oh dear. This is all rather embarrassing. I shall try this process again but with some more vigour and manliness when I move again (next Saturday I think), and this time neither rock nor brick shall prevent me from driving those b****rd pins to their full depth. Don't forget u gotta get them out again...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 12:51:59 GMT
You need one of These to knock them in.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 28, 2020 16:42:49 GMT
The two best types of mooring pins are UK army issue ground anchor pins and US army tent pegs. The US ones are much more heavy duty and I like the way they just call them tent pegs whereas the UK ones are "ground anchors". Bloody excellent US army gear here www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marquee-Pegs-Landrover-Caravan-anchors-US-army-Picket-post-Unused-/111110765283 JohnV had some of these and also noted their quality I believe. They are very loud when hammering them in though !! The English ones seem harder to come by but worth asking at an army surplus store if they have any ground anchors. You are spot on with the description of the US army picket pins ...... hardened steel, 42 inches long, inch and a quarter diameter and 'kin heavy as well. Ear defenders suggested when welting them in with a sledge (they ring like a bell !!!) I find walking round in a circle thumping them sideways with the same sledge loosens them enough for the magnetman patented boarding plank multi purpose removal tool
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Post by brummieboy on Sept 28, 2020 18:36:15 GMT
On the Oxford, (and many other canals) where you have stones held in by railway line type wailing, if you drive your pins in right behind the stones, they will never pull out. On better ground where the pins drive in tight, this is where the loop comes in. Insert the handle of your hammer in the loop and twist the pin in the whole. It will soon loosen.
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