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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 17:46:40 GMT
Having read the whole thing, I'm minded to think it was written up in a playpen. Perhaps we should all club together and get the idiots a Lego set for Xmas.
From little things etc?
It's painful at times reading their drivel, nothing makes any sense. I preferred it when they were running wreath classes in their offices. Kept them out of mischief.
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Post by kris on Sept 28, 2020 17:48:13 GMT
Yes can’t they all just go on furlough for ever and leave us to enjoy boating on the waterways?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 17:50:00 GMT
I've just sent an email to Parry.
Essentially it says back down or face a challenge over the legality of the T and Cs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 17:50:41 GMT
It is of course utter shite and not legally enforceable. As I took some trouble to explain to them! I understand the sentiment - they don’t want someone with a cheap mooring in a different part of the country, hogging honeypot sites eg central London. It is fair enough in principle, but badly worded and of course not legally enforceable. The worrisome thing, is that it looks like cart are trying to remove boats without ever going into a court. As they are claiming it will be an internal process to determine if someone has breached the t&c’s. A while back, parry was told by the trustees that the damaging court cases had to stop. The publicity they attracted were doing the trust itself no favours. The direct result of that today becomes clear.
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Post by kris on Sept 28, 2020 17:58:23 GMT
The worrisome thing, is that it looks like cart are trying to remove boats without ever going into a court. As they are claiming it will be an internal process to determine if someone has breached the t&c’s. A while back, parry was told by the trustees that the damaging court cases had to stop. The publicity they attracted were doing the trust itself no favours. The direct result of that today becomes clear. I really believe with this they opening up a whole other can of worms which they will regret later. As Allen Enfield has pointed out over on the dark side there have been legal rulings on what constitutes a cruise. There is no legal need for a boat with a home mooring to be on a journey - as shown by a number of court cases and Judges comments. HHJ Halbert also stated : A boat which has a home mooring is not required to be “bona fide” used for navigation throughout the period of the licence, but neither is it required to ever use its home mooring. The act requires that the mooring is available, it does not say it must be used. The guidelines also have this effect. The boat is still subject to the restriction that it must not stay in the same place for more than 14 days but there is nothing whatever to stop it being shuffled between two locations quite close together provided they are far enough apart to constitute different places. If those who are causing the overcrowding at popular spots have home moorings anywhere in the country the present regime cannot control their overuse of the popular spots. Such an owner could cruise to and fro along the Kennet & Avon canal near Bristol and the home mooring could be in Birmingham and totally unused.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 28, 2020 18:00:12 GMT
I've just sent an email to Parry.
Essentially it says back down or face a challenge over the legality of the T and Cs.
You'll be on their black list now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:02:27 GMT
I've just sent an email to Parry.
Essentially it says back down or face a challenge over the legality of the T and Cs.
You'll be on their black list now. Don't care. I have the wherewithal to challenge them in court if required.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 28, 2020 18:05:17 GMT
Yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:08:29 GMT
You go on believing what you wish.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:12:33 GMT
Have you taken your Lürssen out recently? Last time I noticed it she was berthed in Tarragona.
Nice time of year for yachting if you can get Covid safe staff.
Might see you in St Tropez if you are about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:18:06 GMT
Have you taken your Lürssen out recently? Last time I noticed it she was berthed in Tarragona. Nice time of year for yachting if you can get Covid safe staff. Might see you in St Tropez if you are about. You don't need to be rich, just know the right people...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 18:19:24 GMT
Have you taken your Lürssen out recently? Last time I noticed it she was berthed in Tarragona. Nice time of year for yachting if you can get Covid safe staff. Might see you in St Tropez if you are about. You don't need to be rich, just know the right people... I do need to be rich. I know nobody.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 28, 2020 18:20:01 GMT
There is nothing new in C&RT's desire to impose CC'ing rules on boats with a home mooring.
They first 'tried it on' back in early 2014, and came away from it with a bloody nose and a costs bill for in excess of £15,000, . . every penny of which the Trust was obliged to bear itself after they were forced into filing a Notice of Discontinuance in the Nottingham County Court in respect of Part 8 Claim No.AOONG769 for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief.
They're now 'trying it on' again, . . . probably on the assumption that the highly embarrassing outcome of the 2014 fiasco will have been forgotten. Looks rather as if they were right !
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Post by kris on Sept 28, 2020 18:40:59 GMT
I've just sent an email to Parry.
Essentially it says back down or face a challenge over the legality of the T and Cs.
Please do post any reply.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 28, 2020 18:47:28 GMT
Have you taken your Lürssen out recently? Last time I noticed it she was berthed in Tarragona. Nice time of year for yachting if you can get Covid safe staff. Might see you in St Tropez if you are about. You don't need to be rich, just know the right people... Would it be worth addressing girevances to the CRT Board of Trustees? canalrivertrust.org.uk/about-us/how-we-are-run/board-of-trustees Allan Leighton, chair. Allan is the Chair of the following Boards: Co-operative Group, Allbright Group Limited, C&A Cofra Holding AG, Simba Sleep, Northern Bloc Ice Cream Limited, and Element Materials Technology. He was formerly the CEO of Asda plc, Chairman of the Royal Mail, Pandora AS and has also held a number of Non-Executive Chairmanships including lastminute.com, Dyson Ltd and BskyB Group plc. Allan was also chair of Race for Opportunity and an Ambassador for Prince Charles in Business in the Community. Allan attended the Advanced Management Programme at Harvard and has an Honorary Degree from Cranfield, was awarded a Doctor of Letters from York St John University and an Honorary Fellowship from the University of Lancashire. He is a keen canal runner. Dame Jenny Abramsky. Jenny was appointed as a trustee in September 2016, and was appointed Deputy Chair in September 2017. She is chair of the Trust’s Joint Council & Trustees Appointments Committee and a member of the Audit and Risk Committee. Jenny is chair of the Royal Academy of Music and served six years as chair of the Heritage Lottery Fund/National Heritage Memorial Fund, among other voluntary roles. She has also been the BBC’s director of radio and music after running the BBC’s 24 hours news service. Nigel Annett CBE. Nigel was appointed as a trustee in September 2016 and took over as chair of Bwrdd Glandŵr Cymru on the same date. He is a member of the Audit and Risk Committee. Nigel is currently a non-executive director of the Principality Building Society, and a trustee of Community Foundation in Wales. He is a former managing director of Welsh Water and is co-founder of Glas Cymru, the not-for-profit company that successfully took over the ownership of Welsh Water back in 2001, a move which resulted in the water industry in Wales being owned on behalf of its customers. Ben Gordon. Ben was appointed trustee in September 2014 and is the chair of the Remuneration Committee. He is Chair of Heal & Son Ltd and a Trustee of United Learning. Previously he was Chief Executive of Mothercare plc for nine years, and SVP and Managing Director of the Disney Store Europe and Asia-Pacific. Ben was also non-executive director of Britvic plc and of St Ives plc. Prior to that he had senior management positions in WHSmith plc and L'Oreal SA in the UK, USA and France. Ben has an MBA from INSEAD and is a Member of the Institution of Civil Engineers. Janet Hogben. Janet was appointed as a trustee in September 2016. She is a member of the Trust’s Joint Council & Trustees Appointments Committee and also sits on the Remuneration Committee. Janet was the Chief People Officer at EDF Energy, having previously worked at BP, where she held a variety of roles, and then at Seagram and at Diageo, leading on a number of global strategy and business specific HR positions. Sir Chris Kelly. Chris was appointed as a trustee in September 2017 and chairs the Audit & Risk Committee. He is a senior independent director on the Board of the Co-op Group and chairs its insurance subsidiary. He also chairs the Oversight Board of the Office for Budget Responsibility. He has in the past chaired the NSPCC, the Kings Fund, the Financial Ombudsman Service and the Committee on Standards in Public Life, among other bodies. Before that, he was a civil servant, mainly in HM Treasury but subsequently as head of policy at the then Department of Social Security and finally as permanent secretary to the Department of Health. Jennie Price CBE. Jennie is a lawyer by training and was CEO of Sport England from 2007 until 2018. During that period the organisation’s strategy moved towards a broader sport and physical activity agenda with an emphasis on behaviour change. She also commissioned the multi-award winning This Girl Can campaign, and was awarded a CBE for services to sport in 2017. Jennie has also led organisations in the environmental and construction sectors. She now chairs the Independent Board overseeing integrity in tennis, is Chair of the Youth United Foundation, and acts as an expert advisor on international sports policy. In 2019 she was also appointed as a Forestry Commissioner. Jennie is a member of the Trust’s Audit and Risk Committee. Tim Reeve. Tim was appointed as a trustee in September 2016. He is Deputy Director and Chief Operating Officer of the Victoria and Albert Museum (V&A), the world’s leading museum of art and design, since 2013. Tim has overall responsibility for the operation of the Museum, including the delivery of a world-class visitor experience. He also led the V&A’s support of China Merchant’s Group in the creation of the V&A Galleries within a new design museum in Shenzhen, China, which opened to great acclaim in December 2017. Tim is closely involved in establishing V&A East, a dynamic new museum in the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in East London. Before joining the V&A, Tim was Director of Historic Properties at English Heritage. He is a graduate in Ancient History from Royal Holloway, University of London and studied at the Institute of Archaeology (UCL) and INSEAD on its International Executive Programme. He is also a Trustee of 'Paintings in Hospitals'. Sarah Whitney. Sarah was appointed a trustee in September 2018. She is a Chartered Accountant and real estate specialist. Her executive career was spent at PricewaterhouseCoopers, where she was a corporate finance partner; at DTZ (now Cushman & Wakefield), where she was head of the Consulting & Research business and served on the DTZ Global Executive Committee; and at CBRE, where she headed the Government & Infrastructure team and served on the UK board. More recently, Sarah was one of the founder directors of Metro Dynamics, a specialist consultancy focused on city growth and development. She is a member of the Council of University College London, where she also serves on the Investment and Finance Committees; a trustee of the Land Trust, where she chairs the Audit Committee and is a member of the Investment Committee; and a Senior Visiting Fellow at the University of Cambridge where she teaches planning, growth and regeneration at both undergraduate and postgraduate level. Susan Wilkinson. Sue was appointed as a Trustee in September 2017, is a member of the Remuneration Committee and Chair of the Living Waterways Awards. She is a Commissioner at Historic England, Trustee of English Heritage, Deputy Chair of the Churches Conservation Trust and a board director of the Association of Leading Visitor Attractions (ALVA). She is also a Trustee at the Medical Research Foundation. Sue has extensive experience in the not-for-profit and tourism sectors and was a board director at the National Trust until the end of 2016 with responsibility for membership, fundraising, volunteering and tourism. Until 2018 Sue was a trustee at the Old Royal Naval College, Greenwich and she previously had a number of non-executive roles with Visit Britain, Visit England and the Institute of Fundraising.
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