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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:33:40 GMT
Do I actually live like what?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 30, 2020 9:41:47 GMT
As in: living on your boat, cruising, picking up the car and moving it each time you move the boat?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:42:08 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:46:46 GMT
As in: living on your boat, cruising, picking up the car and moving it each time you move the boat? I don't live on a boat anymore. More's the pity. But I know several who do exactly that. Its not a huge deal, I think the M.O. is to go about 3-5 miles each time. The more organised have it all planned ahead - a bit like Rog knowing where all the launderettes are. Anyway each to their own. As for the car - the cheaper the better. The MOT is due at the end of the month and i I get another year from it I'll be chuffed. Otherwise its time to find another.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 9:49:35 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves. Seems to me all bikes are a target for thieves - esp on the canal. Get a lightweight racer - sub 10 kilos. Woof woof.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 30, 2020 9:49:37 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves. There is no perfect way, all the options compromise on something. Motor bike works for me, wouldn't be without it. Costs next to nothing to run. 20 miles is a breeze. Could do 100 at a push, but wouldn't want to do that regularly.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 30, 2020 9:53:55 GMT
As in: living on your boat, cruising, picking up the car and moving it each time you move the boat? I don't live on a boat anymore. More's the pity. But I know several who do exactly that. Its not a huge deal, I think the M.O. is to go about 3-5 miles each time. The more organised have it all planned ahead - a bit like Rog knowing where all the launderettes are. Anyway each to their own. As for the car - the cheaper the better. The MOT is due at the end of the month and i I get another year from it I'll be chuffed. Otherwise its time to find another. I need to plan as well. On the Macc/ T&M and northern bit of the Shroppie there's on average roughly 2 miles between each place I can access the road on the bike. Longest bits I know without access are Bollington to Fools Nook, maybe 5 miles, then south of Middlewich to around Church Minshull, this is maybe 6 miles.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 10:09:21 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves. I think an e bike is the best option on the cut for the access reasons. But it definately needs to be brought inside the boat at night. Also a common practice used to be making good bikes look scruffy. Raping in tape or bad paint job being common. It obviously kills the resale value, but this is what puts the scores off. Ive been thinking about this for a while and will go for an ebike over a motor bike. But I’m thinking of a folding one so it can be stowed away.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 10:11:14 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves. I think an e bike is the best option on the cut for the access reasons. But it definately needs to be brought inside the boat at night. Also a common practice used to be making good bikes look scruffy. Raping in tape or bad paint job being common. It obviously kills the resale value, but this is what puts the scores off. Ive been thinking about this for a while and will go for an ebike over a motor bike. But I’m thinking of a folding one so it can be stowed away.
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Post by Jim on Sept 30, 2020 10:28:22 GMT
I don't see why you can't carry a "full load" of shopping in front and rear panniers. My bike handles it no problem (plus my weight, I was 14.5 stone, lost a stone recently). It's just an ordinary hybrid bike with an e-kit attached. Plenty of wind in the tyres it will be fine. I've successfully use the dog trailer too. Just follows along behind. As for the range, get a bigger battery. What ebike is it? If 36v there's no problem getting a bigger battery. I've seen and picked up lots of tips from the Pedelecs forum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 10:34:59 GMT
That might be a point in favour of the ebike/pushbike option- where I am at the moment its about 300 yards down the path to some steps up onto the nearest road. The towpath itself is a bit of a lairy ride- there is a 6 inch flat earthen strip in the middle, with about 6-8 inches of grass growth on each side covering the rest of the path, so I wouldn't want to ride it in the rain. But the major advantage is that I can lift the (20kg plus) ebike up and down the steps, which I clearly couldn't do with a motorbike. It would be a great shame to miss out on lots of nice quiet mooring spots because of lack of road access, but we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I will say though, an ebike, unlike a scruffy old pushbike, is a significant target for thieves. I think an e bike is the best option on the cut for the access reasons. But it definately needs to be brought inside the boat at night. Also a common practice used to be making good bikes look scruffy. Raping in tape or bad paint job being common. It obviously kills the resale value, but this is what puts the scores off. Ive been thinking about this for a while and will go for an ebike over a motor bike. But I’m thinking of a folding one so it can be stowed away. My ebike folds, but even folded I dont have a suitable permanent space for it in the boat. I will bring it into the lounge area overnight if I'm very close to an urban area or problem spot, but I don't want to do that every day, unless maybe I bring it in just before bedtime, so its not in way all evening. What I will start doing is taking out the battery every night, as that alone reduces its value by at at least £100-150. At the moment its on a standard bike security cable and a padlock, but that's a doddle to cut, even for amateur thieves- but as its a fodler, the only secure location for a D lock is through the frame where it folds, and there are none long enough to reach through there and back to a securing point- so it has to be a chain of some sort. If you are getting a folder I would advise you to look at the pics first and see if you can identify a securing point for a D lock- you might find it's just not feasible. My bike is stored folded on the stern currently, which is partly in the way when I need to get on the roof in locks, so my plan is to clear out the cratch and put it in there when cruising- but I will need to ask a welder to weld on an eye for a chain or a bolt to secure it. I'm not sure its possible to truly secure a folder on a boat, because you would need a D lock with arms about 2ft long (unless you string a few of them together maybe?). So my solution is a compromise- store it under a cratch cover, take out the battery, and maybe buy more D locks to loop together, as a stronger alternative to a cable. And when in an urban area overnight, bring it inside.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 10:50:00 GMT
I think an e bike is the best option on the cut for the access reasons. But it definately needs to be brought inside the boat at night. Also a common practice used to be making good bikes look scruffy. Raping in tape or bad paint job being common. It obviously kills the resale value, but this is what puts the scores off. Ive been thinking about this for a while and will go for an ebike over a motor bike. But I’m thinking of a folding one so it can be stowed away. My ebike folds, but even folded I dont have a suitable permanent space for it in the boat. I will bring it into the lounge area overnight if I'm very close to an urban area or problem spot, but I don't want to do that every day, unless maybe I bring it in just before bedtime, so its not in way all evening. What I will start doing is taking out the battery every night, as that alone reduces its value by at at least £100-150. At the moment its on a standard bike security cable and a padlock, but that's a doddle to cut, even for amateur thieves- but as its a fodler, the only secure location for a D lock is through the frame where it folds, and there are none long enough to reach through there and back to a securing point- so it has to be a chain of some sort. If you are getting a folder I would advise you to look at the pics first and see if you can identify a securing point for a D lock- you might find it's just not feasible. My bike is stored folded on the stern currently, which is partly in the way when I need to get on the roof in locks, so my plan is to clear out the cratch and put it in there when cruising- but I will need to ask a welder to weld on an eye for a chain or a bolt to secure it. I'm not sure its possible to truly secure a folder on a boat, because you would need a D lock with arms about 2ft long (unless you string a few of them together maybe?). So my solution is a compromise- store it under a cratch cover, take out the battery, and maybe buy more D locks to loop together, as a stronger alternative to a cable. And when in an urban area overnight, bring it inside. Two d locks or one dlock and chain to extend its reach. The best deterrent is to make it look scruffy.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 30, 2020 10:55:25 GMT
Do you actually live like that? I'm thinking of the spots where I often moor, few of them have anywhere nearby where I'd like to leave a car. Mind you, a bike limits mooring possibilities as well, you can sometimes go miles without there being a gap in the hedge, or all the bridges have steep steps up to roads. we all have our own unique set of competing priorities, and so we all come to different decisions on transport solutions. I'd think a helicopter would be ideal. Land in field beside boat. I'd avoid fields where the landowner charges though!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 30, 2020 11:28:51 GMT
I think an e bike is the best option on the cut for the access reasons. But it definately needs to be brought inside the boat at night. Also a common practice used to be making good bikes look scruffy. Raping in tape or bad paint job being common. It obviously kills the resale value, but this is what puts the scores off. Ive been thinking about this for a while and will go for an ebike over a motor bike. But I’m thinking of a folding one so it can be stowed away. My ebike folds, but even folded I dont have a suitable permanent space for it in the boat. I will bring it into the lounge area overnight if I'm very close to an urban area or problem spot, but I don't want to do that every day, unless maybe I bring it in just before bedtime, so its not in way all evening. What I will start doing is taking out the battery every night, as that alone reduces its value by at at least £100-150. At the moment its on a standard bike security cable and a padlock, but that's a doddle to cut, even for amateur thieves- but as its a fodler, the only secure location for a D lock is through the frame where it folds, and there are none long enough to reach through there and back to a securing point- so it has to be a chain of some sort. If you are getting a folder I would advise you to look at the pics first and see if you can identify a securing point for a D lock- you might find it's just not feasible. My bike is stored folded on the stern currently, which is partly in the way when I need to get on the roof in locks, so my plan is to clear out the cratch and put it in there when cruising- but I will need to ask a welder to weld on an eye for a chain or a bolt to secure it. I'm not sure its possible to truly secure a folder on a boat, because you would need a D lock with arms about 2ft long (unless you string a few of them together maybe?). So my solution is a compromise- store it under a cratch cover, take out the battery, and maybe buy more D locks to loop together, as a stronger alternative to a cable. And when in an urban area overnight, bring it inside. Have you thought about a motorcycle security chain? OK, a determined thief could get through it with an angle grinder, but that would alert you to what's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 12:32:46 GMT
My ebike folds, but even folded I dont have a suitable permanent space for it in the boat. I will bring it into the lounge area overnight if I'm very close to an urban area or problem spot, but I don't want to do that every day, unless maybe I bring it in just before bedtime, so its not in way all evening. What I will start doing is taking out the battery every night, as that alone reduces its value by at at least £100-150. At the moment its on a standard bike security cable and a padlock, but that's a doddle to cut, even for amateur thieves- but as its a fodler, the only secure location for a D lock is through the frame where it folds, and there are none long enough to reach through there and back to a securing point- so it has to be a chain of some sort. If you are getting a folder I would advise you to look at the pics first and see if you can identify a securing point for a D lock- you might find it's just not feasible. My bike is stored folded on the stern currently, which is partly in the way when I need to get on the roof in locks, so my plan is to clear out the cratch and put it in there when cruising- but I will need to ask a welder to weld on an eye for a chain or a bolt to secure it. I'm not sure its possible to truly secure a folder on a boat, because you would need a D lock with arms about 2ft long (unless you string a few of them together maybe?). So my solution is a compromise- store it under a cratch cover, take out the battery, and maybe buy more D locks to loop together, as a stronger alternative to a cable. And when in an urban area overnight, bring it inside. Have you thought about a motorcycle security chain? OK, a determined thief could get through it with an angle grinder, but that would alert you to what's going on. That might be better than looping two additional D locks tbh, cheers Ricco, I'll have a look at those.
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