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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 30, 2020 16:27:43 GMT
It's definitely good for security and if it's an ebike probably quite handy for charging purposes as likely to be close to the inverter and batteries. I expect after a ride on it, Peterboat uses his electric bike to recharge his boat batteries
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 16:32:42 GMT
I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. . Are you sure this isn’t people putting mechanical things on the towpath for three weeks to mend? Obviously the towpath is a poor second to the back deck, but the towpath has to do if you don’t have space on the back deck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:40:38 GMT
It's definitely good for security and if it's an ebike probably quite handy for charging purposes as likely to be close to the inverter and batteries. I expect after a ride on it, Peterboat uses his electric bike to recharge his boat batteries I thought the boat batteries were charged by rain plates.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:42:39 GMT
I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. . Are you sure this isn’t people putting mechanical things on the towpath for three weeks to mend? Obviously the towpath is a poor second to the back deck, but the towpath has to do if you don’t have space on the back deck. Who really knows Kris? Clearly the plant pots were not being put out to be mended, but to make the mooring a nicer place to be, for a dew days. Likewise the folding chairs are very likely to be put on the path for 'leisure' purposes, as are most of the bikes and generators I've seen. I've no doubt you are right in that some of the gear will be there awaiting being fixed up, and if you have nowhere else then why not, if the path is wide and the place is quiet. I dont have a problem with any of it personally- my point is that many people seem to have a 'moored' mode, when they unload specific items e.g. chairs, and a cruising mode, when everything is stowed on board. So as soon as they moor for more than say two days, out comes the gear onto the towpath. I think it makes sense if you mainly moor in quieter safer spots., with fewer scrotes and vandals to wreck gear left out , even when it is of low value.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:44:01 GMT
I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. . Are you sure this isn’t people putting mechanical things on the towpath for three weeks to mend? Obviously the towpath is a poor second to the back deck, but the towpath has to do if you don’t have space on the back deck. I'm pretty sure it's against CRT t&c to place items on the towpath. They even stipulate no customer items on paid-for moorings. Perhaps if you had some sort of outrigger system which was welded to the boat which you could place the engine on that might be ok. You would need to ensure you were not obstructing a PROW. If the towpaths are prows which is not certain.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:45:30 GMT
This all brings up another topic I have long wondered about which is are there any narrow boats with slide-out units? They are very popular on larger luxury motorhomes and caravans. I'm sure it could be arranged to be high enough to be above the waterline. Obviously the canal bank height is an issue but if it's a problem then just use the slideout on the other side instead. How cool to have a sofa which you can wind out over the water with a window at each end .. and a great big automatically inflating orange fender. This sort of idea but on a boat. Someone must have done this. I'd put a window where the orange outline is.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 16:53:14 GMT
I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. . Are you sure this isn’t people putting mechanical things on the towpath for three weeks to mend? Obviously the towpath is a poor second to the back deck, but the towpath has to do if you don’t have space on the back deck. Who really knows Kris? Clearly the plant pots were not being put out to be mended, but to make the mooring a nicer place to be, for a dew days. Likewise the folding chairs are very likely to be put on the path for 'leisure' purposes, as are most of the bikes and generators I've seen. I've no doubt you are right in that some of the gear will be there awaiting being fixed up, and if you have nowhere else then why not, if the path is wide and the place is quiet. I dont have a problem with any of it personally- my point is that many people seem to have a 'moored' mode, when they unload specific items e.g. chairs, and a cruising mode, when everything is stowed on board. So as soon as they moor for more than say two days, out comes the gear onto the towpath. I think it makes sense if you mainly moor in quieter safer spots., with fewer scrotes and vandals to wreck gear left out , even when it is of low value. A lot of people place things on the towpath to slow speeding cyclists down, as this has become a real issue in lots of places.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 16:53:57 GMT
This all brings up another topic I have long wondered about which is are there any narrow boats with slide-out units? They are very popular on larger luxury motorhomes and caravans. I'm sure it could be arranged to be high enough to be above the waterline. Obviously the canal bank height is an issue but if it's a problem then just use the slideout on the other side instead. How cool to have a sofa which you can wind out over the water with a window at each end .. and a great big automatically inflating orange fender. This sort of idea but on a boat. Someone must have done this. I'd put a window where the orange outline is. Brilliant idea I think your the man to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:01:42 GMT
I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. . Are you sure this isn’t people putting mechanical things on the towpath for three weeks to mend? Obviously the towpath is a poor second to the back deck, but the towpath has to do if you don’t have space on the back deck. I'm pretty sure it's against CRT t&c to place items on the towpath. They even stipulate no customer items on paid-for moorings. Perhaps if you had some sort of outrigger system which was welded to the boat which you could place the engine on that might be ok. You would need to ensure you were not obstructing a PROW. If the towpaths are prows which is not certain. Rules or no rules, it seems to happen here and there on the towpaths. I can see there are sensible limits, but I hope this is something they dont get it into their heads to crack down on. If I find a nice spot and I know I'll be there for a few days, it will be a nice little bonus if there is a post or something I can chain the ebike to, and save me lugging it on and off the stern. Also, when people need to run generators (and the cold/dark season is getting closer), that has to be on the towpath for safety reasons, as I understand it. If a CRT chap was to appear and ask about why the two bikes and the genny are on the towpath, the boater is going to say 'Oh I just put those there an hour ago.' Which reminds me. Interestingly (to me anyway), I noticed a CRT chappie with a clipboard and a furrowed brow outside my boat this morning, so I hastily made myself as near to human as I could in a hurry, and popped out. It was one of those 'what appears to be the problem officer?' situations. It turned out that I'd written my license ID number on the disgracefully shabby bits of paper I stuck in the window, instead of the boat number itself, and the poor chap couldn't find me on his system. So all of the month or so I've been on CRT waters I've been a sort of outlaw- a bandit, if you will. A renegade, almost. A free spirit; a law breaker. I was almost tempted to tell him that I didn't need no stinking badge. But what actually happened was that I was extremely apologetic to the very nice chap with the clipboard, and I promised the error would be rectified instantly, and that it would never happen again. Never argue with a man who has a clipboard.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:02:36 GMT
When I lived in the caravan whilst looking for a boat, I often thought why can't boats be designed with as much thought as this £2k caravan was - storage wise.
If ever I was in the position to design my own boat I'd certainly look at many caravans and motor homes.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 17:06:41 GMT
When I lived in the caravan whilst looking for a boat, I often thought why can't boats be designed with as much thought as this £2k caravan was - storage wise.
If ever I was in the position to design my own boat I'd certainly look at many caravans and motor homes.
Yes mdf and formica lovely.
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Post by Jim on Sept 30, 2020 17:07:58 GMT
When I lived in the caravan whilst looking for a boat, I often thought why can't boats be designed with as much thought as this £2k caravan was - storage wise.
If ever I was in the position to design my own boat I'd certainly look at many caravans and motor homes.
I know an utter smart arse who fitted his boat out with the innards of a caravan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:08:40 GMT
And catalytic gas heaters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:09:04 GMT
When I lived in the caravan whilst looking for a boat, I often thought why can't boats be designed with as much thought as this £2k caravan was - storage wise.
If ever I was in the position to design my own boat I'd certainly look at many caravans and motor homes.
I know an utter smart arse who fitted his boat out with the innards of a caravan. I wonder if he had a car roof box on top. I could understand the idea of one of those if you could take the top off and use it as a nice little dinghy but I don't believe you can despite the fact they look incredibly similar to an upside down dinghy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:10:43 GMT
When I lived in the caravan whilst looking for a boat, I often thought why can't boats be designed with as much thought as this £2k caravan was - storage wise.
If ever I was in the position to design my own boat I'd certainly look at many caravans and motor homes.
Yes mdf and formica lovely. I should have said design features (and not materials).
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