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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 17:22:18 GMT
To be fair Formica if done right is a very good material. You don't want excessive amounts of it but it is hard wearing and can be quite attractive in orange.
Gas lights with mantles are also quite an interesting prospect although probably a bit obsolete with the led situation.
It would be interesting to see inside an all singing all dancing expensive pikey wagon these days.
I suppose continuing use of a rude term for the thieving hippos might reduce the chances of positive interactions though.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 30, 2020 17:33:51 GMT
The one where he bolts the lawnmower engine to it
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Post by peterboat on Sept 30, 2020 17:36:03 GMT
Tony a bike with large basket and electric motor is the way forward for you Not fast enough to keep up with traffic and nobody hears you coming. Death trap. Cedric lynchs does over 70 MPH! probably faster than your little bikes
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 30, 2020 18:01:16 GMT
Not fast enough to keep up with traffic and nobody hears you coming. Death trap. Cedric lynchs does over 70 MPH! probably faster than your little bikes Maybe so but nobody hears you coming. Death traps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:04:42 GMT
Cedric lynchs does over 70 MPH! probably faster than your little bikes Maybe so but nobody hears you coming. Death traps. Electric trains were 'dubbed' the 'silent killers' at first, even scrotes got used to them....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:06:15 GMT
Cedric lynchs does over 70 MPH! probably faster than your little bikes Maybe so but nobody hears you coming. Death traps. If you were doing 70mph would being heard make much difference?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 20:02:53 GMT
There is a sort of middle option between motorbike and normal ebike, which is the high-power ebike. They are illegal for use on public roads, of course- I think the law bans anything over 250 watts and imposes a max speed of 15mph.
The really extreme examples are frankly ridiculous. There are electric bikes of of between 3 and 5kw which will reach speeds of 30-50mph and in some cases more. The extreme ones come with heavy duty brakes, uprated suspension setups, and thicker tyres in proportion to their speed.
At the other end of the illegal market are those bikes that use normal pushbike hardware, with about 1000 watt/48 volt motors, that are capable of about 25mph. I'm not going to get one myself- or at least not yet- and the police are well aware of their growing numbers.
So any pushbike rider wo is flying along at 25mph on what appears a quite heavy bike- and especially one with a visible battery and/or motor- is eventually going to be pulled over, found out, and heavily fined.
But I do believe it would be possible to run a 1000 watt/48 volt ebike without being caught, simply by using its power to do all of the work, but keeping your speed to about 20mph maximum.
This is not something I am recommending for other people, before the secret police descend on me. It is something I would potentially consider as a transport option for myself, because I believe the law should allow ebikes to do 20mph rather than 15mph, and they should have a bit more power assistance.
But the law continues to disagree with me, so that is an option you would choose, and use, at very great personal risk.
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Post by Trina on Sept 30, 2020 21:40:43 GMT
Returning to the idea of realising you're a boater.Think I began to realise I'd changed when... I stopped putting mascara & eye liner on(it smudged a lot in the rain making me look like a demented panda). I dressed for the weather and stopped bothering if clothing items matched. Thermal undies were more appropriate than 'Victoria's Secret' type pretty underpinnings. A good waterproof was like winning the lottery. Having a lock in your favour & someone leaving it open for you to 'drive' straight in was the best bit of your day. Having enough coal is like having (black) diamonds. Finding a good mooring makes me smile...a lot. Having a great pair of boots used to mean something quite different to what it does now. Knowing that even though I have a house,it's the boat that feels special. Last of all how good I feel with an empty toilet tank & a full water tank. Happy days !😊
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Post by patty on Oct 1, 2020 5:42:27 GMT
Returning to the idea of realising you're a boater.Think I began to realise I'd changed when... I stopped putting mascara & eye liner on(it smudged a lot in the rain making me look like a demented panda). I dressed for the weather and stopped bothering if clothing items matched. Thermal undies were more appropriate than 'Victoria's Secret' type pretty underpinnings. A good waterproof was like winning the lottery. Having a lock in your favour & someone leaving it open for you to 'drive' straight in was the best bit of your day. Having enough coal is like having (black) diamonds. Finding a good mooring makes me smile...a lot. Having a great pair of boots used to mean something quite different to what it does now. Knowing that even though I have a house,it's the boat that feels special. Last of all how good I feel with an empty toilet tank & a full water tank. Happy days !😊 I think that sums it up very well..plus glorious sunset sitting with vino knowing theres no place better to be and that u aint gotta drive home. Always remember my old friends face when he sat glass of wine in his hand in the front of the boat...he suddenly realised part of what the appeal was...
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Post by kris on Oct 1, 2020 5:55:57 GMT
Not fast enough to keep up with traffic and nobody hears you coming. Death trap. Cedric lynchs does over 70 MPH! probably faster than your little bikes I really wouldn’t want to be going at 70mph on a bicycle.
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Post by Jim on Oct 1, 2020 7:45:14 GMT
And catalytic gas heaters. I knew someone who had them on a NB. Great Idea until the damp gets in your bones. They put out DiHydrogen Monoxide, a known killer as well as a black mould propagator.
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Post by Jim on Oct 1, 2020 8:07:43 GMT
There is a sort of middle option between motorbike and normal ebike, which is the high-power ebike. They are illegal for use on public roads, of course- I think the law bans anything over 250 watts and imposes a max speed of 15mph. The really extreme examples are frankly ridiculous. There are electric bikes of of between 3 and 5kw which will reach speeds of 30-50mph and in some cases more. The extreme ones come with heavy duty brakes, uprated suspension setups, and thicker tyres in proportion to their speed. At the other end of the illegal market are those bikes that use normal pushbike hardware, with about 1000 watt/48 volt motors, that are capable of about 25mph. I'm not going to get one myself- or at least not yet- and the police are well aware of their growing numbers. So any pushbike rider wo is flying along at 25mph on what appears a quite heavy bike- and especially one with a visible battery and/or motor- is eventually going to be pulled over, found out, and heavily fined. But I do believe it would be possible to run a 1000 watt/48 volt ebike without being caught, simply by using its power to do all of the work, but keeping your speed to about 20mph maximum. This is not something I am recommending for other people, before the secret police descend on me. It is something I would potentially consider as a transport option for myself, because I believe the law should allow ebikes to do 20mph rather than 15mph, and they should have a bit more power assistance. But the law continues to disagree with me, so that is an option you would choose, and use, at very great personal risk. A friend of mine can get up to 25mph with his 250w 36v kit motor, depending on the gearing on the rear block. 20mph is easy. Apparently the speed limit can be altered as one rides along, using the control panel. How are the dibble to spot him anyway, that sort of speed can easily be reached pedalling without the motor, 30mph is easy downhill. Who is going to catch him whizzing along a lovely smooth paved empty canal towpath? So what is the problem? Where is the great risk? No one has been had up for it, even the guy that hit a woman at 30mph got away with it, it was her fault for stepping in front of him. The law is an ass anyway, the e motors only have to be "rated" at 250w with a label on the case. Labels are available. The 250w bafang motor can easily be uprated to 350w, by setting current to 18amp rather than 15amp using a usb lead and a laptop. That does not increase the speed though and uses more juice, probably best kept for the off road bridleway adventure rides where a bit more poke would be useful.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 1, 2020 8:23:16 GMT
Used to own a collection of Mark 8 Competition Itom motorbikes (motorbikes not mopeds) 49cc rear sets, clip ons, racing seat as standard. straight out of the showroom woulkd do 65 mph and 150 mpg, inch and a half tyres and a Cherry Blossom tin sized drum brakes, 98 lbs kerb weight ...... I was stopped by the Old Bill on the Southend Arterial Road who clocked me doing 74 mph ......... now they would make ideal boat motorbikes ..... but unfortunately all sold nearly 40 years ago www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Itom-50cc-Mark-8-49cc-Italy-Race-Motorcycle-Photo-Spec-Info-Stat-Card-/303383933267
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 18:31:34 GMT
There is a sort of middle option between motorbike and normal ebike, which is the high-power ebike. They are illegal for use on public roads, of course- I think the law bans anything over 250 watts and imposes a max speed of 15mph. The really extreme examples are frankly ridiculous. There are electric bikes of of between 3 and 5kw which will reach speeds of 30-50mph and in some cases more. The extreme ones come with heavy duty brakes, uprated suspension setups, and thicker tyres in proportion to their speed. At the other end of the illegal market are those bikes that use normal pushbike hardware, with about 1000 watt/48 volt motors, that are capable of about 25mph. I'm not going to get one myself- or at least not yet- and the police are well aware of their growing numbers. So any pushbike rider wo is flying along at 25mph on what appears a quite heavy bike- and especially one with a visible battery and/or motor- is eventually going to be pulled over, found out, and heavily fined. But I do believe it would be possible to run a 1000 watt/48 volt ebike without being caught, simply by using its power to do all of the work, but keeping your speed to about 20mph maximum. This is not something I am recommending for other people, before the secret police descend on me. It is something I would potentially consider as a transport option for myself, because I believe the law should allow ebikes to do 20mph rather than 15mph, and they should have a bit more power assistance. But the law continues to disagree with me, so that is an option you would choose, and use, at very great personal risk. A friend of mine can get up to 25mph with his 250w 36v kit motor, depending on the gearing on the rear block. 20mph is easy. Apparently the speed limit can be altered as one rides along, using the control panel. How are the dibble to spot him anyway, that sort of speed can easily be reached pedalling without the motor, 30mph is easy downhill. Who is going to catch him whizzing along a lovely smooth paved empty canal towpath? So what is the problem? Where is the great risk? No one has been had up for it, even the guy that hit a woman at 30mph got away with it, it was her fault for stepping in front of him. The law is an ass anyway, the e motors only have to be "rated" at 250w with a label on the case. Labels are available. The 250w bafang motor can easily be uprated to 350w, by setting current to 18amp rather than 15amp using a usb lead and a laptop. That does not increase the speed though and uses more juice, probably best kept for the off road bridleway adventure rides where a bit more poke would be useful. There is a well known youtuber called Andy Kirby who builds electric bikes (and sells kits), and he was caught at least once, although he was going an awful lot faster than the permitted 15mph. An awful lot. The concern- in my view at least- is not how likely it is that you will be caught, but just the fact that you can be caught. My understanding is that the law treats these bikes as unlicensed and uninsured motorcycles, and it is your driving licence that is at risk if penalties are imposed on you. It is relatively new territory for the police and the courts, but I bet the number of cases is on the increase- probably mostly scrotes who race around everywhere at 30mph, and make it obvious. I said this above, but I will rephrase- the police are increasingly aware of the numbers of these 'overpowered' bikes on the public roads. They have briefings about them, and I am told that they have some basic training in identifying them- manufacturer names, size of rear hub motors, presence of a battery, etc etc. The biggest giveaway is a guy on a heavy-framed MTB with thick tyres who is going up a significant incline at 25mph or more, when every other cyclist they've seen that morning was toiling up it at half the speed. That sort of thing. These officers sit and watch traffic sometimes for hours each day- they must surely have a sense for the realistic speeds of mountain bikes in the hands of older folks- and they definitely have the knowledge to spot an ebike instantly. I did say above that in my opinion you can avoid being caught if you keep your speed to 20mph or less, and reduce it a tad if there are police in sight, and you are going up a hill. So to a large extent I agree with what you're saying, but I think the police are much more aware of these bikes than you do. A 1000 watt motor will let you get a mountain bike up a hill at 20mph, but then you will stand out. Its just a bit of common sense and keeping your eyes open. If I make a decision not to go for a small motorbike next Spring, I will probably buy a high powered ebike.I agree with you that the law is a total ass in our H+S obsessed culture, but that wont stop me getting a heavy fine if I get caught, so I'll get a 1000 watt bike, but I'll fit a speedo, and keep half an eye on my speed, just in case. I reckon for a first offence you wouldn't be fined hugely, but I just dont want to get into the situation. Its one thing to say breezily on a discussion forum that its very unlikely you'll be caught etc, but its quite another to be stood in a courtroom answering to a judge, and facing a financial penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 18:44:58 GMT
Pete Doherty was nicked last week for using a powered scooter on the pavement. Also I was told by someone who is into the electric cycle thing in a big way that the 1000W motors are awful although as is usual was a bit hazy on 'why'.
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