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Post by Jim on Oct 10, 2020 8:25:51 GMT
So, did Donald pay for his recent treatment? Is Donald pro life?
The answer to both is NO. Despite both being anathema to a staunch republican, his treatment was paid for by the public purse, renergen is made from aborted fetuses. Looks like the action of a sociopathic narcissist to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 9:03:10 GMT
Isn't that a bit like criticising Atilla the Hun for his dress sense ... surely there are more significant issues to highlight in having 'the Donald' as leader of the free world ?
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 10, 2020 9:44:02 GMT
Boater's Update: "It is known that some people who made their wealth through the slave trade invested those profits in canal building, and some canals were built specifically to carry goods derived from the exploitation of slaves – tobacco, cotton and sugar for example. The Black Lives Matter movement has spurred on the Trust to start exploring these issues and make them more widely known." Time to sell your boat in disgust and boycott the canals? Perhaps there should be set aside an hour each week for boaters to get down on one knee and contemplate the awfulness of it all. canalrivertrust.org.uk/refresh/media/original/42453-canals-and-transatlantic-slavery.pdf
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 10, 2020 9:59:42 GMT
Boater's Update: "It is known that some people who made their wealth through the slave trade invested those profits in canal building, and some canals were built specifically to carry goods derived from the exploitation of slaves – tobacco, cotton and sugar for example. The Black Lives Matter movement has spurred on the Trust to start exploring these issues and make them more widely known." Time to sell your boat in disgust and boycott the canals? Perhaps there should be set aside an hour each week for boaters to get down on one knee and contemplate the awfulness of it all. canalrivertrust.org.uk/refresh/media/original/42453-canals-and-transatlantic-slavery.pdfThis will only end when a 'legacy payment' is made to black people. A 'universal income' for all black people, to recognise the suffering and injustice of events that occurred 10 generations ago. Mind you, mixed race people, should they be entitled to 50% of the legacy payment? And then, people with brown skin, they will feel discriminated against and new accusations of 'racism!' will abound. Regardless, a disproportionate amount of gun and knife crime will continue to be perpetrated by black people and a disproportionate amount of fraud by brown people. White people on the other hand, will continue to kick each other's head's in whilst tanked up, usually over trivial matters.
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Post by bodger on Oct 10, 2020 10:03:42 GMT
Boater's Update: "It is known that some people who made their wealth through the slave trade invested those profits in canal building, and some canals were built specifically to carry goods derived from the exploitation of slaves – tobacco, cotton and sugar for example. The Black Lives Matter movement has spurred on the Trust to start exploring these issues and make them more widely known." Time to sell your boat in disgust and boycott the canals? Perhaps there should be set aside an hour each week for boaters to get down on one knee and contemplate the awfulness of it all. canalrivertrust.org.uk/refresh/media/original/42453-canals-and-transatlantic-slavery.pdfI think you have put your finger on the shallowness and stupidity of making an issue about these newly fashionable 'things that matter'.
sorry to seem patronising, but this is a GOOD POST
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 10, 2020 10:05:52 GMT
Also this is Boaters' Update which could be a valid point:
"We’ve recently had an increase where ‘BW keys’, sold on eBay, have been used on some of our automated bridges and locks these poor quality copies are leading to keys getting stuck and snapped in the key barrel, damaging our key lock devices and ultimately costing around £700 to resolve so please don’t buy them! We, along with our 3rd party retailers who we supply with stock, are the only approved retailers of these keys. To buy slightly cheaper copies online is a false economy because they are of inferior quality and often they are copies of copies and not the genuine Yale Keys that can be bought from us. We’re frequently told that they do not work at all or only for a short period of time and we have to spend vital money in order to fix the lock which we, and I bet you, would rather we spent on maintaining the navigation!"
Surely if it can be proved you have buggered up the automated system with a non-genuine key, then the person who bought it and used it should have to fork out for the cost of damage/repair/inconvenience?
Our two 'BW' keys - one came with the boat, and the other we vought from a chandlery (Huddersfield as I recall); how do we know these are 'genuine' keys?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 10, 2020 10:21:04 GMT
Also this is Boaters' Update which could be a valid point: "We’ve recently had an increase where ‘BW keys’, sold on eBay, have been used on some of our automated bridges and locks these poor quality copies are leading to keys getting stuck and snapped in the key barrel, damaging our key lock devices and ultimately costing around £700 to resolve so please don’t buy them! We, along with our 3rd party retailers who we supply with stock, are the only approved retailers of these keys. To buy slightly cheaper copies online is a false economy because they are of inferior quality and often they are copies of copies and not the genuine Yale Keys that can be bought from us. We’re frequently told that they do not work at all or only for a short period of time and we have to spend vital money in order to fix the lock which we, and I bet you, would rather we spent on maintaining the navigation!" Surely if it can be proved you have buggered up the automated system with a non-genuine key, then the person who bought it and used it should have to fork out for the cost of damage/repair/inconvenience? Our two 'BW' keys - one came with the boat, and the other we vought from a chandlery (Huddersfield as I recall); how do we know these are 'genuine' keys? CRT should stop ripping off boaters for keys. This would probably save them money in the long term. I bought 2 keys off Ebay, £3.50 for the 2 including postage. No problems at all with them.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 10, 2020 10:52:20 GMT
Also this is Boaters' Update which could be a valid point: "We’ve recently had an increase where ‘BW keys’, sold on eBay, have been used on some of our automated bridges and locks these poor quality copies are leading to keys getting stuck and snapped in the key barrel, damaging our key lock devices and ultimately costing around £700 to resolve so please don’t buy them! We, along with our 3rd party retailers who we supply with stock, are the only approved retailers of these keys. To buy slightly cheaper copies online is a false economy because they are of inferior quality and often they are copies of copies and not the genuine Yale Keys that can be bought from us. We’re frequently told that they do not work at all or only for a short period of time and we have to spend vital money in order to fix the lock which we, and I bet you, would rather we spent on maintaining the navigation!" Surely if it can be proved you have buggered up the automated system with a non-genuine key, then the person who bought it and used it should have to fork out for the cost of damage/repair/inconvenience? Our two 'BW' keys - one came with the boat, and the other we vought from a chandlery (Huddersfield as I recall); how do we know these are 'genuine' keys? CRT should stop ripping off boaters for keys. This would probably save them money in the long term. I bought 2 keys off Ebay, £3.50 for the 2 including postage. No problems at all with them. And I have found them jammed in electric locks causing loads of problems for boaters, if one is left in the other lock gates cant be operated
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 10, 2020 12:15:11 GMT
Also this is Boaters' Update which could be a valid point: "We’ve recently had an increase where ‘BW keys’, sold on eBay, have been used on some of our automated bridges and locks these poor quality copies are leading to keys getting stuck and snapped in the key barrel, damaging our key lock devices and ultimately costing around £700 to resolve so please don’t buy them! We, along with our 3rd party retailers who we supply with stock, are the only approved retailers of these keys. To buy slightly cheaper copies online is a false economy because they are of inferior quality and often they are copies of copies and not the genuine Yale Keys that can be bought from us. We’re frequently told that they do not work at all or only for a short period of time and we have to spend vital money in order to fix the lock which we, and I bet you, would rather we spent on maintaining the navigation!" Surely if it can be proved you have buggered up the automated system with a non-genuine key, then the person who bought it and used it should have to fork out for the cost of damage/repair/inconvenience? Our two 'BW' keys - one came with the boat, and the other we vought from a chandlery (Huddersfield as I recall); how do we know these are 'genuine' keys? CRT should stop ripping off boaters for keys. This would probably save them money in the long term. I bought 2 keys off Ebay, £3.50 for the 2 including postage. No problems at all with them. How much does CRT charge for a key? Just looked - £7.00 - debatable whether this is a 'rip-off'. You can use such a key forever. One night parked up on the River Nene can cost you £5 - and that's just the ONE night. Is that a rip-off? Most marinas charge £10/night for visitors.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 10, 2020 12:21:58 GMT
CRT should stop ripping off boaters for keys. This would probably save them money in the long term. I bought 2 keys off Ebay, £3.50 for the 2 including postage. No problems at all with them. How much does CRT charge for a key? Just looked - £7.00 - debatable whether this is a 'rip-off'. You can use such a key forever. One night parked up on the River Nene can cost you £5 - and that's just the ONE night. Is that a rip-off? Most marinas charge £10/night for visitors. Yes it's a rip off. £7.00 from CRT £1.75 from elsewhere, including postage. CRT, selling the quantity they do, should be able to get them at a lower price than the internet sellers. Probably from China.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 10, 2020 12:28:38 GMT
CRT should stop ripping off boaters for keys. This would probably save them money in the long term. I bought 2 keys off Ebay, £3.50 for the 2 including postage. No problems at all with them. How much does CRT charge for a key? Just looked - £7.00 Plus £2.95 postage. A fair amount for a 6p Jiffy bag and a 61p stamp.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 10, 2020 12:31:51 GMT
But the £1.75 key is probably a 'fake' (although, ex-boaters with genuine keys can sell them off on Ebay, can't they? - although why? You'd think they'd just hand the keys over to the buyer of their boat) and it will break in the lock of something and CRT and all the other boaters queueing up for the next 3 days will be angry with you. Let's say CRT does make a tiny profit on a few keys (it's not like they are selling hundreds per week)... that money gets ploughed back into the waterways, doesn't it, dredging and new lock gates, etc.
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