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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 10, 2020 20:42:11 GMT
Nothing to do with nimmby ism then, or fear about property values? That could be part of it. As I suggest, affordable marina for those who want to stay put, or to be able to stay put where they are perhaps for an affordable bankside fee. £5/night seems reasonable, I know Gazza would agree. £5 x 365 days = £1825. There ya go - bargain! Only the price of a decent crimping tool. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 10, 2020 22:24:18 GMT
 Boaters Avril McGovern and Rebecca Sarll at Mead Lane I don't know what this is about, but people with rings through their noses look silly. I agree. If she took that ring out of her nose and put on some make-up and a nice frock, she could probably land herself a man and bid farewell to the world of Velcro-bumping. She's got a fairly decent rack so I'm sure there would be some interest. As for the one on the right, she's got no chance, unless she can find a man who is specifically looking for a dumpy, boot-faced old hag. And I would imagine these are few and far between. The one on the right bears a remarkable resemblance to, back in the day, a young lady knows as 'meat pie'. She had a fair count from the local pub including yours truly, on one unremarkable occasion. Known as meat pie because one of her conquests stated afterwards: "I'd rather have sex with a meat pie than her". It was hilarious at the time. |
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Post by Jim on Oct 11, 2020 8:54:44 GMT
Nothing to do with nimmby ism then, or fear about property values? Possibly just because they are overly judgemental twats, afraid of any difference of creed, colour or dress sense, driven to be spiteful. Now where else have I seen that behaviour... |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 11, 2020 9:00:13 GMT
Nothing to do with nimmby ism then, or fear about property values? Possibly just because they are overly judgemental twats, afraid of any difference of creed, colour or dress sense, driven to be spiteful. Now where else have I seen that behaviour... Poland, Estonia, Spain perhaps? |
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Post by Jim on Oct 11, 2020 9:17:40 GMT
Possibly just because they are overly judgemental twats, afraid of any difference of creed, colour or dress sense, driven to be spiteful. Now where else have I seen that behaviour... Poland, Estonia, Spain perhaps? Cold! Try a bit nearer to home. Not saying there aren't bigots over there though. Some get stricken in middle age. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 11, 2020 9:32:45 GMT
Nothing to do with nimmby ism then, or fear about property values? Possibly just because they are overly judgemental twats, afraid of any difference of creed, colour or dress sense, driven to be spiteful. Now where else have I seen that behaviour... ...in The Labour Party? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 11, 2020 11:21:38 GMT
Poland, Estonia, Spain perhaps? Cold! Try a bit nearer to home. Not saying there aren't bigots over there though. Some get stricken in middle age. Jimbo if you care to visit Poland, the Baltic states, Spain or the Balkan region you'll come back feeling that the people you currently describe as bigots are in fact, in comparison, particularly warm and welcoming towards those different to them. By the way, a bigot is someone who won't consider views other than the one they themselves hold. It is not someone who doesn't subscribe, hook line and sinker, to the values and policies of modern day social liberalism. That myth was exploded 2 decades ago. Do keep up at the back! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 11:26:21 GMT
Cold! Try a bit nearer to home. Not saying there aren't bigots over there though. Some get stricken in middle age. Jimbo if you care to visit Poland, the Baltic states, Spain or the Balkan region you'll come back feeling that the people you currently describe as bigots are in fact, in comparison, particularly warm and welcoming towards those different to them. By the way, a bigot is someone who won't consider views other than the one they themselves hold. It is not someone who doesn't subscribe, hook line and sinker, to the values and policies of modern day social liberalism. That myth was exploded 2 decades ago. Do keep up at the back! S do you consider that 'the values and policies of modern day social liberalism' have some merit? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 11, 2020 11:55:48 GMT
Jimbo if you care to visit Poland, the Baltic states, Spain or the Balkan region you'll come back feeling that the people you currently describe as bigots are in fact, in comparison, particularly warm and welcoming towards those different to them. By the way, a bigot is someone who won't consider views other than the one they themselves hold. It is not someone who doesn't subscribe, hook line and sinker, to the values and policies of modern day social liberalism. That myth was exploded 2 decades ago. Do keep up at the back! S do you consider that 'the values and policies of modern day social liberalism' have some merit? Sure, some of them are great. However, someone who doesn't universally support every single aspect of modern day social liberalism isn't a bigot. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 11, 2020 12:17:52 GMT
Back to the thread beginning, have any more details been forthcoming as regards The Residents vs Overstaying Boaters?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 12:30:30 GMT
S do you consider that 'the values and policies of modern day social liberalism' have some merit? . However, someone who doesn't universally support every single aspect of modern day social liberalism isn't a bigot. Just out of interest can you name some of them? |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 11, 2020 14:37:16 GMT
Sure, some of them are great. However, someone who doesn't universally support every single aspect of modern day social liberalism isn't a bigot. Just out of interest can you name some of them? The one that stands out to me is that society has been nurtured in a way that has enabled many people who are 'different' (homosexuals etc.) to live much fuller lives in this day and age. This is a good thing and has been enabled (mostly) without the need for rafts of new laws and certainly, without demonising those considered 'normal'. Similarly with 'normal' relationships, society has moved away from an expectation of find partner, get married, have a prescribed number of children and stay in that relationship until one of the parties dies, regardless of the unhappiness and desperate loneliness that can sometimes exist in these 'relationships'. On the other side of the coin: I believe it's a mistake to try to make society more harmonious by effectively banning commentary on cultural differences. Modern day social liberalism considers it 'ignorant' to have any negative opinions about races different to our own. That's the case even if those observations are based on significant experience and are mixed with positive observations regarding other aspects of difference. Experience isn't ignorance. Rather, it's more or less the opposite of this. Furthermore, the tactic of actively promoting the cultural exhibitions/celebrations of different races while simultaneously softly demonising the culture of the majority (constant reminders of the evils of slavery and empire) is unacceptable. People cannot be held responsible for the actions of those who went before them. Attempts to do this will fail and result in a less harmonious society, rather than the hoped for better one. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 15:32:51 GMT
Just out of interest can you name some of them? The one that stands out to me is that society has been nurtured in a way that has enabled many people who are 'different' (homosexuals etc.) to live much fuller lives in this day and age. This is a good thing and has been enabled (mostly) without the need for rafts of new laws and certainly, without demonising those considered 'normal'. Similarly with 'normal' relationships, society has moved away from an expectation of find partner, get married, have a prescribed number of children and stay in that relationship until one of the parties dies, regardless of the unhappiness and desperate loneliness that can sometimes exist in these 'relationships'. On the other side of the coin: I believe it's a mistake to try to make society more harmonious by effectively banning commentary on cultural differences. Modern day social liberalism considers it 'ignorant' to have any negative opinions about races different to our own. That's the case even if those observations are based on significant experience and are mixed with positive observations regarding other aspects of difference. Experience isn't ignorance. Rather, it's more or less the opposite of this. Furthermore, the tactic of actively promoting the cultural exhibitions/celebrations of different races while simultaneously softly demonising the culture of the majority (constant reminders of the evils of slavery and empire) is unacceptable. People cannot be held responsible for the actions of those who went before them. Attempts to do this will fail and result in a less harmonious society, rather than the hoped for better one. You spent more words on what you don't like rather than what you like. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 15:45:39 GMT
I blame the gun toting Jamaican drug dealer, and the Thais.
I agree about the slavery bollocks. There is a whole gallery of the Museum of London Docklands devoted to the slavery bollocks. Get over it !
It's part of history yes and quite a sad part but at the end of the day things move on we would much rather have boat related shit in the museum than slavery related shit. Too depressing !
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 11, 2020 15:56:24 GMT
The one that stands out to me is that society has been nurtured in a way that has enabled many people who are 'different' (homosexuals etc.) to live much fuller lives in this day and age. This is a good thing and has been enabled (mostly) without the need for rafts of new laws and certainly, without demonising those considered 'normal'. Similarly with 'normal' relationships, society has moved away from an expectation of find partner, get married, have a prescribed number of children and stay in that relationship until one of the parties dies, regardless of the unhappiness and desperate loneliness that can sometimes exist in these 'relationships'. On the other side of the coin: I believe it's a mistake to try to make society more harmonious by effectively banning commentary on cultural differences. Modern day social liberalism considers it 'ignorant' to have any negative opinions about races different to our own. That's the case even if those observations are based on significant experience and are mixed with positive observations regarding other aspects of difference. Experience isn't ignorance. Rather, it's more or less the opposite of this. Furthermore, the tactic of actively promoting the cultural exhibitions/celebrations of different races while simultaneously softly demonising the culture of the majority (constant reminders of the evils of slavery and empire) is unacceptable. People cannot be held responsible for the actions of those who went before them. Attempts to do this will fail and result in a less harmonious society, rather than the hoped for better one. You spent more words on what you don't like rather than what you like. Marginally so. At the end of the day I'm socially liberal but abhor the attempted subversive manipulation of the majority in the attempt to create a plastic society where everyone pretends that everyone else is the same. It's inhuman and it's not going to happen, regardless of any additional laws that may be put in place. |
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