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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 7:31:22 GMT
I am genuinely baffled by the latest developments and seek enlightenment.
The new three tier restrictions are implemented today with Sir Kier and his supporters demanding a further national lock-down.
What is the aim or purpose of these 'hide-away' restrictions ?
The virus exists in the world ... this is not the blitz ... if we hide-away for a spell when we emerge the virus will begin to circulate again as the national lock-down for nine weeks beginning in March has shown.
So what is the purpose or aim ?
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Post by dyertribe on Oct 14, 2020 7:39:45 GMT
The idea is to control the rate if infection so as not to overwhelm the NHS and give those infected the best chance of surviving
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 7:41:12 GMT
To slow the rate of spread and hopefully buy enough time to allow better treatments and potential vaccines to be developed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 8:03:57 GMT
I think it would be much better all round if we threw caution to the wind so that as many people as possible caught the virus and died because there would be too many to treat. The obvious benefit would be that all the sceptics would shut up (one way or another).
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 14, 2020 10:36:18 GMT
Andrea, buckingham, United Kingdom, 20 minutes ago
I haven't a clue why a global response to this virus resulted in almost mass hysteria amongst scientists, leaders, medical practitioners etc. I know that people have died - whether all of those are the result of COVID19 or not is hard to determine due to a lack of transparency, fudging of statistics, downright lies and what seems to be a growing tendency amongst the world's politicians to have absolute control over their peoples. I have always been a bit sceptical of the reactions even back in February and March. What I do know for a fact is that there have been more non-COVID19 related deaths, since they imposed the lockdowns in March and since. The cruel and heartless treatment of the elderly, vulnerable and grieving has been quite shocking and the worst aspect is that much of it is unnecessarily authoritarian and harsh. My other thought, for what it's worth, if lockdown worked we wouldn't have to keep doing it.
"21 trillion hit to the world economy and China emerges pretty much unscathed. Funny that!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:20:18 GMT
The 'hands, face, space' campaign seems to be sensible ... personal hygeine and keeping distance seems to make sense.
But the virus exists in the world and isn't going away.
The aim of interupting social contact to break or reduce the spread I sort of understand ... but what is the ultimate aim, goal or target ... because once social contact is reintroduced, infection will spread yet again ... or is the plan to live in isolation from now on ?
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Post by peterboat on Oct 14, 2020 13:21:16 GMT
I am genuinely baffled by the latest developments and seek enlightenment. The new three tier restrictions are implemented today with Sir Kier and his supporters demanding a further national lock-down. What is the aim or purpose of these 'hide-away' restrictions ? The virus exists in the world ... this is not the blitz ... if we hide-away for a spell when we emerge the virus will begin to circulate again as the national lock-down for nine weeks beginning in March has shown. So what is the purpose or aim ? Rog The scientists and Starmer dont have to foot the bill and become very unpopular with the voting public! I am for local restrictions like we have now, it puts the onus on those in that area to mend their ways and do whats necessary to get the figures down, why punish Loddon for Liverpools antics? Its like at the moment I am in a tier 2 area Jayne is in a tier 1 area we are in a bubble so we can see each other, if this area was going to go to tier 3 I have a choice move to Jaynes or stay here locked down as I am not sure if bubbles are allowed at tier 3. If full lockdown happens again I have a choice but again why should the majority pay for what the minority are doing?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:21:59 GMT
The 'hands, face, space' campaign seems to be sensible ... personal hygeine and keeping distance seems to make sense. But the virus exists in the world and isn't going away. The aim of interupting social contact to break or reduce the spread I sort of understand ... but what is the ultimate aim, goal or target ... because once social contact is reintroduced, infection will spread yet again ... or is the plan to live in isolation from now on ? Rog TB used to be a big problem too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:23:42 GMT
And then what ... what's the aim or purpose of the isolation if we are to re emerge in weeks or months time ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:28:47 GMT
And then what ... what's the aim or purpose of the isolation if we are to re emerge in weeks or months time ? Rog TB hasn't gone away but isn't a huge problem now though is it? (hint hint)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:29:02 GMT
And then what ... what's the aim or purpose of the isolation if we are to re emerge in weeks or months time ? Rog I refer you to my original post - we keep going with the measures until either better treatment and/or vaccine becomes available or a decision is made that those two options are not now viable, at which stage hopefully a significant number of people will have some sort of immunity and 'carnage' won't prevail.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:32:01 GMT
So it's a bit like shouting at the tide hoping it will turn back .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:32:52 GMT
And then what ... what's the aim or purpose of the isolation if we are to re emerge in weeks or months time ? Rog I refer you to my original post - we keep going with the measures until either better treatment and/or vaccine becomes available or a decision is made that those two options are not now viable, at which stage hopefully a significant number of people will have some sort of immunity and 'carnage' won't prevail. All the scuttlebut is that covid mutates often enough so that immunity isn't developed...the flu jab currently issued is no guarantee...
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Post by ianali on Oct 14, 2020 13:33:37 GMT
The 'hands, face, space' campaign seems to be sensible ... personal hygeine and keeping distance seems to make sense. But the virus exists in the world and isn't going away. The aim of interupting social contact to break or reduce the spread I sort of understand ... but what is the ultimate aim, goal or target ... because once social contact is reintroduced, infection will spread yet again ... or is the plan to live in isolation from now on ? Rog Covid19 won’t be going away anytime soon. My view is that we should not be in any lockdown. People who wish to can isolate themselves. Others should be free to live their lives, obviously whilst taking some precautions. For those that welcome more lockdowns I would ask, when does this end? Some scientists and politicians are now mentioning July next year! Madness! I am appalled at the treatment that young people are receiving. The older, and more at risk need too isolate themselves and allow the country to work its way out of this. Covid19 is not that dangerous to reasonably fit people, certainly not to those under 40 years of age.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:39:28 GMT
So it's a bit like shouting at the tide hoping it will turn back . Rog Possibly.
With the exception that currently we know that science can't turn the tide back and is unlikely ever to even try within several lifetimes.
Just maybe science, especially medical science might be able to at least help resolve Covid in a year or two.
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