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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 9:41:56 GMT
I think we really need an election. In my view, we need a party elected with a mandate. This is all a mess and will just get a lot worse. An election might see Sturgeon's behaviour curtailed as well, take the shit stirring factor out of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 9:46:47 GMT
Maybe we should get rid of the government entirely and run the country in Thunderboat fashion.
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Post by Higgs on Nov 5, 2016 10:25:30 GMT
I think we really need an election. In my view, we need a party elected with a mandate. This is all a mess and will just get a lot worse. An election might see Sturgeon's behaviour curtailed as well, take the shit stirring factor out of it all. Between now and the supreme court hearing, the pressure is going to build up. That pressure is mostly on Theresa May. We will just have to see how far her determination is to back democracy. She is still a politician and won't want to go down in history as a failure. If she backs down, she will be ridiculed by the her peers, she will be devalued and considered weak. She will not be respected, but despised. Between the horns of a dilemma. Her career will be in tatters. Our standing in the democratic world will be indefensible. When ever democracy is our argument, it will stand for hypocrisy. If there is an election, I wouldn't waste my vote on UKIP, I would vote tactically for the Tories, if the mandate is right. But, as we know, mandates are not binding. However, it would reassert the move towards brexit - by popular demand. Failing that, I will never vote again for the farce that is parliament.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 5, 2016 10:37:01 GMT
For all the latest Political Comment go to www.canalworld.net - looks like Daniel has changed his mind 180 degrees and is allowing at least two threads, one he started himself. Rules are meant to be broken, and all that, eh? I see plenty of people are willing to talk Politics over there now, even though they "agreed with the rules" earlier. Just like the USSR 'Communists' who are now Russian Capitalists. For Religion I suggest you go to Church, as Dan hasn't started Religion again yet. Dan could have said "if you want to talk Politics, then why not bugger off to 'The Place That Can't Be Mentioned'.... Brexiteers, you are being shafted in a conniving way. Still, off to Wetherspoons with you, where you can cry into your cheap beer. Disnt you know Foxy they had a referendum and Dan went with the majority it was the other day I voted to allow politics
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 5, 2016 10:53:46 GMT
I don't follow Canalworld as intensely as others here, I just retain my ever-lasting cynicism and it looks like now that Canalworld has purged itself of 'the disruptive element' it's OK again to talk Politics, although, I'd imagine, in a 'fluffy bunny' theoretical, hypothetical, imaginative way...? Anyway, I suppose we are happy here at home where we make our own Politics and run things as we want them to be run. I probably have a different outlook from most modern Brits anyway, living in a part of the world which is 99.5% white Finnish and where even I am still regarded as a 'foreigner' after having lived here for 5 years. The 'refugees' (from Sweden, eh?) 'crisis' has had an impact on Finland, with the refugee centres having been exposed as purely profit-making businesses - you should see the amount they spend on them per day! I get a bit mad at all the two-facedness and corruption, which is why I turn the TV off anytime there's a Political Debate on it and no-one else is watching the box - I can't even stand to see politicians - the only one I've ever liked was Nigel Farage for his cheekiness and straight-talking. Time to take my blood pressure tablet (thanks, Junior!) and get down to what it is I'm supposed to be doing on a Saturday at home
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 5, 2016 10:55:31 GMT
Disnt you know Foxy they had a referendum and Dan went with the majority it was the other day I voted to allow politics Political Topics - Public Opinion Poll Started by DHutch, 03 Nov 2016 08:24 PM 'they had a referendum'? Started by whom?.... (hollow laughter)
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Post by bodger on Nov 5, 2016 11:59:47 GMT
I don't know much about TM, except that during her time as Home Secretary she seemed to lose control of immigration and immigration controls, admitting that she didn't actually know the immigration rates.
I have nothing against the dear lady, but I am yet to be persuaded that she is going to be any better at managing Brexit.
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Post by Saltysplash on Nov 5, 2016 12:38:18 GMT
I think we really need an election. In my view, we need a party elected with a mandate. This is all a mess and will just get a lot worse. An election might see Sturgeon's behaviour curtailed as well, take the shit stirring factor out of it all. If there is an election, I wouldn't waste my vote on UKIP, I would vote tactically for the Tories, if the mandate is right. But, as we know, mandates are not binding. However, it would reassert the move towards brexit - by popular demand. Failing that, I will never vote again for the farce that is parliament. Well my MP is Dominic Grieve and after listening to him the other night on LBC he obviously has no idea about the feelings of his constituents who voted to leave so he wont be getting my vote
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Post by peterboat on Nov 5, 2016 12:52:33 GMT
I don't know much about TM, except that during her time as Home Secretary she seemed to lose control of immigration and immigration controls, admitting that she didn't actually know the immigration rates. I have nothing against the dear lady, but I am yet to be persuaded that she is going to be any better at managing Brexit. Thats because whilst in the EU you cant control immigration from the EU! like us they can do pretty much whatever they want same as we can. The whole thing is a joke the population is to big for this small country its a disaster in waiting
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Post by bodger on Nov 5, 2016 15:26:53 GMT
I don't know much about TM, except that during her time as Home Secretary she seemed to lose control of immigration and immigration controls, admitting that she didn't actually know the immigration rates. I have nothing against the dear lady, but I am yet to be persuaded that she is going to be any better at managing Brexit. Thats because whilst in the EU you cant control immigration from the EU! like us they can do pretty much whatever they want same as we can. The whole thing is a joke the population is to big for this small country its a disaster in waiting well I suppose when Brexit happens and we go down the pan, all the EU and many of the 3rd world immigrants will suddenly decide there are better places to live. housing, public transport, school overcrowding all fixed by one stroke of Mrs May's pen (will it need HM's signature as well? - she'll be about 100 when/if it finally comes to pass).
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Post by peterboat on Nov 5, 2016 17:35:32 GMT
Sorted then its a win win situation when it happens in just over 2 years time
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Post by Bad-Bitch on Nov 5, 2016 20:49:39 GMT
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Post by Higgs on Nov 6, 2016 12:59:27 GMT
...and, the end of the film 'V for Vendetta' can be very satisfying.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 20, 2016 17:39:15 GMT
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Post by sbg on Nov 21, 2016 11:14:35 GMT
Genuine question - this is not anti-immigrant in any way. Can anyone explain to me why its a good thing for the country's population to continue to expand at the rate it is? Taking birth rates, immigration, ageing population etc, we must be adding the equivalent of a major city every 3-4 years. Why is this good? Is it to support the older folks? To keep the economy growing? Some other political issue?
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