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Post by bodger on Nov 8, 2020 18:53:04 GMT
I have some experience in this matter. My children who are both in primary school get free school meals. They consistently have negative comments about the food. At home they have quality food but nothing you would find with a brand name on it. you have no clue.
you are intelligent, as presumably is your kids' mum, and you both ensure they receive nutritious and tasty food at home.
do you really believe the same applies to the average sink-estate family?
I hate sounding patronising, but you really need to get out and about more before you compare the situation of needy kids to that of your privileged offspring.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 18:54:24 GMT
Not worried, you can argue your own corner. Just I’ve not been here for a couple of days, and this was first thread I read. All seems rather angry. All I can say is you are a far more trusting soul than me. @loddon has the right idea 👍😕 It would be even better if no one quoted foxy then I wouldn't know the gobshite existed.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 8, 2020 18:55:01 GMT
Don't worry - Gazza will find something to be offended about on anything I post. Not worried, you can argue your own corner. Just I’ve not been here for a couple of days, and this was first thread I read. All seems rather angry. All I did was look at dogless's Pie video, and then I saw Pie had made another two lately, and I like his 'starving kids' one. I wonder the public don't storm Downing Street with pitchforks - all this public money being thrown at Serco, G4S, and the likes of Dildo 'Baroness' Harding and how many billions on HS2 which, we all know it, will turn out to be some lacklustre affair with graffiti on the signal boxes before it's finished, and the construction companies waltzing away to take care of their Swiss bank accounts (the Isle of Man and Channel Islands banks also like to help villains). Meals in schools in Finland are free, and the quality of the food is OK. It comes out of everyone's taxes, but no-one is complaining as all realise it's good to invest in the future generations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 18:58:43 GMT
I have some experience in this matter. My children who are both in primary school get free school meals. They consistently have negative comments about the food. At home they have quality food but nothing you would find with a brand name on it. you have no clue.
you are intelligent, as presumably is your kids' mum, and you both ensure they receive nutritious and tasty food at home.
do you really believe the same applies to the average sink-estate family?
I hate sounding patronising, but you really need to get out and about more before you compare the situation of needy kids to that of your privileged offspring.
Thanks for calling me "intelligent". Compliments are always good ! My "free school meals" experience comes from inner east London "deprived" areas which I realise are probably not actually deprived at all. There are a lot of places in the UK which actually are "deprived" so yes I probably do need to get out more. Not at the moment though as it is raining. I still don't agree with academy schools pocketing hundred of pounds of tax payer money every day and wealthy celebrities jumping on the publicity band wagon. But never mind. That's what intelligence gets you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 19:02:45 GMT
I don't give a shit how my children "perform at KS1". I probably have an unusually negative view of this area but I don't really believe "results" at primary school are what make for a good or bad life. I am interested in their future life experiences in general and no they won't be getting any "family money" like I did so they will not have the option of being idle fuckwits like me. If they have a generally good life and enjoy themselves while staying healthy and avoiding bad things happening then that'll do for me. Your stance on this is a little confusing - on the one hand you acknowledge there is no safety net for them as you enjoyed. On the other you don't seem to be bothered to encourage them to gain the skills to compete toe to toe with their peers? I'm guessing they will eventually find their own way but being a part of that surely has to be better than taking a back seat and saying fuck it, as long as they are well and happy that will do? I guess coming from two wildly opposite ends of the spectrum it's no suprise we differ on our outlooks. I've worked and studied since leaving school at 16, I was fortunate to have a supportive father and a sma group of his friends that inspired me to take the road I did mouse didn't have a pot of gold to keep the show on the road, he did have a firm guiding hand and the threat of a size 9 if it looked at all like i'd derail things up to the age of about 19. After that it's all hard-work and endeavour. An ethos I hope my daughter also acquires. Well wide of the school meals issue, getting back to that.... Doing well in KS1 lays the foundation for doing well throughout the academic career, have a bad start from a poor background and it's a struggle to succeed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 19:04:07 GMT
I have some experience in this matter. My children who are both in primary school get free school meals. They consistently have negative comments about the food. At home they have quality food but nothing you would find with a brand name on it. you have no clue.
you are intelligent, as presumably is your kids' mum, and you both ensure they receive nutritious and tasty food at home.
do you really believe the same applies to the average sink-estate family?
I hate sounding patronising, but you really need to get out and about more before you compare the situation of needy kids to that of your privileged offspring.
Exactly. +1 Etc.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 19:04:49 GMT
As long as government continues with a system where the only hope a significant underclass have of getting a home and enough money to live on is by having children, the problem of neglected, half starved children will continue to grow. This. Perhaps a large part of the problem is due to post 1960s feminism and the invention of the contraceptive pill. Intelligent and educated women tend to defer having children while they pursue careers which will enable them to "get on the property ladder" whereas low-skilled women with few educational qualifications do not have this option and have little choice but to obtain local authority housing if they want independence, which of course requires them to have a dependent child. Couple this with a system whereby benefits increase with further additions to the family which are greater than the cost of maintaining those additions and you create the perfect storm whereby serial breeding becomes a business proposition. I'd favour a system whereby benefits do not increase after the first or second child.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 8, 2020 19:10:47 GMT
Whilst we're on the subject - is it not hypocritical for people to go round telling others how serious Covid-19 is - when they have their own children at school - ie. coronavirus-spreading centres? Is it my imagination, or have I been reading about how Covid is spiking with schools, colleges and universities re-starting after the Summer break? Students are locked up in their dorms, right? Yet I carry kids on my bus and haven't contracted Covid ... or perhaps I have, an unwitting asymptomatic carrier ... yes, that must be it. I need to be put on paid furlough!
If Covid really is real and is a threat, why am I not getting 'danger money' for transporting people? I put this to my boss and she just said "Pfffttttt!!" That can only be because she doesn't believe in it herself, and neither do any of the owners of any bus companies in Finland. Is the NHS giving 'danger money' to their nurses? If not, why not?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 19:24:05 GMT
taking a back seat and saying fuck it, as long as they are well and happy that will do? [br To be honest I think those two things are actually quite important.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 19:27:49 GMT
If Covid really is real and is a threat, why am I not getting 'danger money' for transporting people? I put this to my boss and she just said "Pfffttttt!!" That can only be because she doesn't believe in it herself, and neither do any of the owners of any bus companies in Finland. Is the NHS giving 'danger money' to their nurses? If not, why not? Belief in Covid-19 has achieved the status of religious faith. Virtually nobody knows of anybody who has died from it, but to question the official line is tantamount to heresy. Everybody knows of somebody who has been damaged by the hysterical over-reaction to a very average Winter virus, and the real jobs bloodbath is only just beginning, to say nothing of the mental health issues being caused by keeping millions under house arrest. In years to come we will look back on 2020 as an outbreak of collective madness on a par with the dancing manias of the Middle Ages or the Salem Witch Trials.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 19:31:04 GMT
Either that or it is a dry run for the real world-ending climate emergency which kills 9 out of 10 people globally and plunges the FTSE to its lowest level since 1986.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 19:34:03 GMT
Either that or it is a dry run for the real world-ending climate emergency which kills 9 out of 10 people globally and plunges the FTSE to its lowest level since 1986. Hand on heart, I don't know what it is all about. I only know that it is not what it was presented as being, and I've said that from the word "Go".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 20:04:43 GMT
@gazza I increasingly believe it's not worth trying to discuss serious issues here.
Best stick to froth and nonsense .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 20:06:58 GMT
I'm like "OMG someone start a new thread about something pointless".
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Post by Trina on Nov 8, 2020 20:18:08 GMT
I was a teacher in a few roughish areas for 35 years.There were parents who tried so hard,but really needed help - they were genuine.I also saw parents who didn't really need help...but were offered it(money) on a plate-what would anyone say when offered cash ?Then there were the ones who seemed to have money for going to the pub at the end of school, fancy tattoos & holidays abroad.They seemed to know every food bank too.What I'm trying to say is that there are folk who need genuine help & folk who played the system.Difficult to tell who's genuine but...one family who claimed everything they could,brought me back a very nice pair of 9ct gold Mickey Mouse studs from Disneyland !
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