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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 20:23:49 GMT
@gazza I increasingly believe it's not worth trying to discuss serious issues here. Well it is, but of course the danger with any forum is that you may encounter someone who does not hold the same opinion as you. I wouldn't say that this is necessarily a bad thing as it may be that you concede that there is some truth in what the other person is saying, and modify your own position on an issue. Or we could just go back to discussing you beating your wife up and stealing boats.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 8, 2020 20:35:42 GMT
Hitting wives ..... hitting bridges ....... it's a violent world out there
(me I'll stick to hitting the bottle)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 20:42:16 GMT
@gazza I increasingly believe it's not worth trying to discuss serious issues here. Well it is, but of course the danger with any forum is that you may encounter someone who does not hold the same opinion as you. I wouldn't say that this is necessarily a bad thing as it may be that you concede that there is some truth in what the other person is saying, and modify your own position on an issue. Or we could just go back to discussing you beating your wife up and stealing boats. But we don't discuss or debate , that's the problem ... just attempt to ridicule and insult . I'll talk nonsense with you all day ... I have an ology ... but just occasionally when the subject matter is something you care about, it presses all your buttons, and not in a good way. Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 20:45:15 GMT
Well it is, but of course the danger with any forum is that you may encounter someone who does not hold the same opinion as you. I wouldn't say that this is necessarily a bad thing as it may be that you concede that there is some truth in what the other person is saying, and modify your own position on an issue. Or we could just go back to discussing you beating your wife up and stealing boats. But we don't discuss or debate , that's the problem ... just attempt to ridicule and insult . I disagree. There has been intelligent debate on this thread from differing viewpoints.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 20:52:19 GMT
My parents had no tattoos, didn't gamble or drink and both worked hard to do their best for seven kids. Sadly my Dad worked at the pit, and prior to 1972 the wages were not generous. One would have hoped for a greater appreciation, sympathy and understanding for a child's position rather than suggestions of scams, rip offs etc. Which is why I suggested not getting involved may be for the best. I'll leave you to intelligently debate Rog
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 20:56:24 GMT
Either that or it is a dry run for the real world-ending climate emergency which kills 9 out of 10 people globally and plunges the FTSE to its lowest level since 1986. Hand on heart, I don't know what it is all about. I only know that it is not what it was presented as being, and I've said that from the word "Go". I don't know either but I think something had to change. We were on a collision course with extinction due to our lack of respect of nature and the growth of the human population. I suspect that this virus is being used to bring in changes. Some which will hopefully benefit us all, but being a bit cynical, just as likely to only benefit the few. It's worth reading publications like the UN Agenda 21 and Agenda 30 to get some kind of insight into what might be planned for us all. They are very large documents but you might get a rough idea by reading the index. sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/21252030%20Agenda%20for%20Sustainable%20Development%20web.pdf
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2020 20:57:44 GMT
My parents had no tattoos, didn't gamble or drink and both worked hard to do their best for seven kids. Sadly my Dad worked at the pit, and prior to 1972 the wages were not generous. One would have hoped for a greater appreciation, sympathy and understanding for a child's position rather than suggestions of scams, rip offs etc. Well, I did say earlier that the sins of the fathers should not be visited upon the children, and I do believe that no child should ever go hungry. However, in my opinion it is futile to suggest that no parent has ever had a child simply because there was some material advantage to be gained from it. You must have noticed that the community you grew up in in 1972 has changed.
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Post by bodger on Nov 8, 2020 21:23:06 GMT
I was a teacher in a few roughish areas for 35 years.There were parents who tried so hard,but really needed help - they were genuine.I also saw parents who didn't really need help...but were offered it(money) on a plate-what would anyone say when offered cash ?Then there were the ones who seemed to have money for going to the pub at the end of school, fancy tattoos & holidays abroad.They seemed to know every food bank too.What I'm trying to say is that there are folk who need genuine help & folk who played the system.Difficult to tell who's genuine but...one family who claimed everything they could,brought me back a very nice pair of 9ct gold Mickey Mouse studs from Disneyland ! whatever, giving cash or vouchers for food is not the answer for obvious reasons, as you suggest a. whatever, giving cash or vouchers for food is not the answer for obvious reasons, as you suggest.
providing a healthy meal to the innocent children of parents who can't afford, or can't be bothered, to provide it themselves is the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 21:28:11 GMT
Whilst we're on the subject - is it not hypocritical for people to go round telling others how serious Covid-19 is - when they have their own children at school - ie. coronavirus-spreading centres? Is it my imagination, or have I been reading about how Covid is spiking with schools, colleges and universities re-starting after the Summer break? Students are locked up in their dorms, right? Yet I carry kids on my bus and haven't contracted Covid ... or perhaps I have, an unwitting asymptomatic carrier ... yes, that must be it. I need to be put on paid furlough! If Covid really is real and is a threat, why am I not getting 'danger money' for transporting people? I put this to my boss and she just said "Pfffttttt!!" That can only be because she doesn't believe in it herself, and neither do any of the owners of any bus companies in Finland. Is the NHS giving 'danger money' to their nurses? If not, why not? There is the odd time I think to myself I'll give Ross the benefit of the doubt - then you go and post shit like this and prove beyond all question that @loddon is absolutely spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 21:30:05 GMT
taking a back seat and saying fuck it, as long as they are well and happy that will do? [br To be honest I think those two things are actually quite important. Yes that may be so but not mutually exclusive of a decent education, be that comprehensive or publicly schooled - if you've pissed the family silver up the wall you may well need to rethink that stance!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 21:32:37 GMT
@gazza I increasingly believe it's not worth trying to discuss serious issues here. Best stick to froth and nonsense . Rog that may be so but I hope you are not including the Rugby thread, the never ending thread and the never ending voyage of the good ship Ellis with quaysider at the helm in that melting pot of doom?!
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 8, 2020 21:39:37 GMT
If Covid really is real and is a threat, why am I not getting 'danger money' for transporting people? I put this to my boss and she just said "Pfffttttt!!" That can only be because she doesn't believe in it herself, and neither do any of the owners of any bus companies in Finland. Is the NHS giving 'danger money' to their nurses? If not, why not? Belief in Covid-19 has achieved the status of religious faith. Virtually nobody knows of anybody who has died from it, but to question the official line is tantamount to heresy. Man visiting his friend for a cup of tea is fined by police for breaking Covid lockdown rules. Officers confirm he was issued with fixed penalty which is Β£200 for first offence. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8926949/Man-visiting-friend-cup-tea-fined-police-breaking-Covid-lockdown-rules.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 21:40:18 GMT
There is the odd time I think to myself I'll give Ross the benefit of the doubt - then you go and post shit like this and prove beyond all question that @loddon is absolutely spot on. The answer is in your hands its under the little cog wheel top right on his profile You know it makes sense
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 8, 2020 21:50:37 GMT
Whilst we're on the subject - is it not hypocritical for people to go round telling others how serious Covid-19 is - when they have their own children at school - ie. coronavirus-spreading centres? Is it my imagination, or have I been reading about how Covid is spiking with schools, colleges and universities re-starting after the Summer break? Students are locked up in their dorms, right? Yet I carry kids on my bus and haven't contracted Covid ... or perhaps I have, an unwitting asymptomatic carrier ... yes, that must be it. I need to be put on paid furlough! If Covid really is real and is a threat, why am I not getting 'danger money' for transporting people? I put this to my boss and she just said "Pfffttttt!!" That can only be because she doesn't believe in it herself, and neither do any of the owners of any bus companies in Finland. Is the NHS giving 'danger money' to their nurses? If not, why not? There is the odd time I think to myself I'll give Ross the benefit of the doubt - then you go and post shit like this and prove beyond all question that @loddon is absolutely spot on. So... you think schools being open during a pandemic (you said it yourself!) are not cause for concern? Why were schools closed earlier this year in an effort to stop the spread of Covid? Why are university students locked up in their dormitories? Do you believe children can't spread Covid? Why the sudden rise associated with schools re-opening? You easily dismiss anything you don't care for as 'shit'. As for loddon, worried that tourists may visit his precious village during this pandemic (or at any other time?) - yet gladly travels to East Anglia on a pleasure jaunt, knowing full well he could be an asymptomatic spreader.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 22:06:45 GMT
There is the odd time I think to myself I'll give Ross the benefit of the doubt - then you go and post shit like this and prove beyond all question that @loddon is absolutely spot on. So... you think schools being open during a pandemic (you said it yourself!) are not cause for concern? Why were schools closed earlier this year in an effort to stop the spread of Covid? Why are university students locked up in their dormitories? Do you believe children can't spread Covid? Why the sudden rise associated with schools re-opening? You easily dismiss anything you don't care for as 'shit'. As for loddon, worried that tourists may visit his precious village during this pandemic (or at any other time?) - yet gladly travels to East Anglia on a pleasure jaunt, knowing full well he could be an asymptomatic spreader. It is virtually impossible to get through to you but I'll have a tiny try. Kids need an education, the best place to provide that is at school, college or university not remotely at home. As for your danger money for driving a bus? You regulate the level of exposure you have, I'll give you a little clue - my Mrs has successfully avoided contracting COVID 19 by treating every end of life patient she deals with as having Covid, If she can manage to wear the appropriate PPE to protect herself, her colleagues, her patients, her family and friends I'm sure you should be safe enough driving your buss around Finland; particularly if you used your brain for something other than posting drivel on here. As for nursing staff wanting danger money - that crass comment from you says all anyone reading this insignificant corner of the internet needs to know. Twat? Not even close, thatβs usually an accolade on here - I'll avoid using the language you actually deserve to be described with for that little gem - unmoderated or not.
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