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Post by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2020 15:13:27 GMT
Being gay is not a choice, Is it really as black and white as that? Can't some people be a bit gay? Yes of course, it’s called being bisexual! But that is not a choice either.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 13, 2020 15:14:06 GMT
Pharma must be a fantastic business to be in. Your product has the most enormous mark-up and then the Government makes it compulsory for everybody to consume it. Because it's funded through taxation, even the poorest people. Compulsory ? Are we back on the grassy knoll ? Rog Yes, I believe it will be de facto compulsory, in that proof of vaccination will be required before previous basic human freedoms such as travel, socialising etc are permitted.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2020 15:16:17 GMT
Compulsory ? Are we back on the grassy knoll ? Rog Yes, I believe it will be de facto compulsory, in that proof of vaccination will be required before previous basic human freedoms such as travel, socialising etc are permitted. Let’s hope so, anyway. I for one don’t want to be travelling or socialising with any plague-ridden conspiracy theorist nutters.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 13, 2020 15:24:00 GMT
There is something desperately askew in this thread !!!
I have given posts by Telemachus thumbs up. thrice !!!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 13, 2020 15:24:32 GMT
Yes, I believe it will be de facto compulsory, in that proof of vaccination will be required before previous basic human freedoms such as travel, socialising etc are permitted. Let’s hope so, anyway. I for one don’t want to be travelling or socialising with any plague-ridden conspiracy theorist nutters. If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? And as for the "conspiracy theorist" bit, I said from the Get Go that the dangers were being hugely exaggerated, that the hysteria and fear dials were being set to max, and the 4,000 deaths per day prediction by Public Health England and Cambridge University was utter nonsense. And guess what?
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Post by JohnV on Nov 13, 2020 15:28:01 GMT
Let’s hope so, anyway. I for one don’t want to be travelling or socialising with any plague-ridden conspiracy theorist nutters. And guess what? That you have no idea about trying to predict trends from insufficient information ? and you believe that if they were right they still should have done nothing ?
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2020 15:30:10 GMT
Let’s hope so, anyway. I for one don’t want to be travelling or socialising with any plague-ridden conspiracy theorist nutters. If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? And as for the "conspiracy theorist" bit, I said from the Get Go that the dangers were being hugely exaggerated, that the hysteria and fear dials were being set to max, and the 4,000 deaths per day prediction by Public Health England and Cambridge University was utter nonsense. And guess what? Guess what, there was a lockdown or two which meant that the predictions of unrestrained virus deaths didn’t materialise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 15:36:23 GMT
If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? Because if he had an accident while gliding, for example, and needed urgent medical care the hospital would be unavailable due to being full of antivaxxer conspiracy theory nutters who have caught Covid and called on the NHS to save them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 15:41:26 GMT
Let’s hope so, anyway. I for one don’t want to be travelling or socialising with any plague-ridden conspiracy theorist nutters. If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? And as for the "conspiracy theorist" bit, I said from the Get Go that the dangers were being hugely exaggerated, that the hysteria and fear dials were being set to max, and the 4,000 deaths per day prediction by Public Health England and Cambridge University was utter nonsense. And guess what? Now lets look at the Sage Worst Case Scenario - care to tell me whether that was correct when compared to the two lower death rate predictions... As far as I can work out Sage were predicting less than an average of 100 deaths a day by mid November, instead we are currently around the 400 mark even with the measures put in place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 15:42:34 GMT
You are a vaxxer so your opinion is worthless
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2020 15:58:41 GMT
Anyway, I’m glad I don’t live in either Cambridge or Warwick those look like a hotbed of plague.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 13, 2020 16:01:43 GMT
If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? Because if he had an accident while gliding, for example, and needed urgent medical care the hospital would be unavailable due to being full of antivaxxer conspiracy theory nutters who have caught Covid and called on the NHS to save them. Since there is no need for anyone to go gliding, any such incident would be self-inflicted and therefore undeserving of NHS attention.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 16:01:52 GMT
If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? And as for the "conspiracy theorist" bit, I said from the Get Go that the dangers were being hugely exaggerated, that the hysteria and fear dials were being set to max, and the 4,000 deaths per day prediction by Public Health England and Cambridge University was utter nonsense. And guess what? Now lets look at the Sage Worst Case Scenario - care to tell me whether that was correct when compared to the two lower death rate predictions... As far as I can work out Sage were predicting less than an average of 100 deaths a day by mid November, instead we are currently around the 400 mark even with the measures put in place. 400 of what? On average about 1500 die in the UK each week under normal circumstances. We still seem to be missing out another important factor in all of this. The Covid death figures are based on people being tested positive within a few weeks of the death. What is severely lacking is that the figures don't show to what degree Covid was a factor in the death. So if someone was killed in a road accident, they still get flagged as a Covid death if they were tested positive. We already know that the majority of people who contract Covid have no symptoms or mild symptoms. That still applies to those submitted to hospital for any reason.
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 13, 2020 16:12:39 GMT
Pharma must be a fantastic business to be in. Your product has the most enormous mark-up and then the Government makes it compulsory for everybody to consume it. Because it's funded through taxation, even the poorest people. Yet another assumption. For every drug that comes to market tens of others fall by the wayside in the development process, whether it is at the first hurdle or in the final phase of trials. All these failures cost, clinical trials cost, dealing with all the stakeholders, governments, healthcare providers, costs. Patents on drugs only last for 20 years and need to be taken out at the beginning of development so often have less than 10 years of exclusivity before others can copy it so the development costs have to be recouped asap. That is why drugs are so expensive
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 13, 2020 16:19:23 GMT
If you've been vaccinated, why would it be an issue for you if I haven't been? Because those for whom the vaccine is contraindicated will be more vulnerable the lower the uptake of the vaccine.
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