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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 19, 2020 14:53:05 GMT
Professor Gabriel Scally, a public health expert at Bristol University Bristol Technical College, warns there is 'no point' in having a Merry Christmas only to 'then bury friends and relations in January and February'. The festive period is 'too dangerous a time and opportunity for the virus to spread', he added.
"The NHS may start dishing out a jab as soon as next month after Moderna and Pfizer's vaccines also said their shots had been shown to be effective in final-stage trials."
All I want for Christmas is my Covid jab...
"China says a Covid-19 study clears it of any blame over the pandemic because it found the virus was circulating in Italy in September last year" - yes, also you didn't invade Tibet, and you don't keep thousands of Uighurs in concentration camps.
"Jaguar Land Rover orders staff to turn off NHS Covid-19 app at work to stop them having to self-isolate 'unnecessarily' " - yes, sod you and your health, keep working to build luxury cars so rich women can do their shopping at Waitrose in style!
"Rishi Sunak will deliver a 'scary' economic forecast in next week's spending review" - I thought he was some financial 'wonder boy' - anyone can take cookies from the jar and not replace them.
"The deficit is expected to reach a peacetime record of almost £400billion in 2020-21 and still be above £100billion by 2024-25, the Financial Times reported.
The bleak economic outlook coupled with the Government's commitments to spending money on 'levelling up' the North and a 'green revolution' will force Mr Sunak to make tough decisions on taxes and public spending.
An estimated £40billion a year will need to be generated in tax rises, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies and the Resolution Foundation."
Yet still we can afford HS2 ??!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 14:55:41 GMT
And a few more bombs.
Mind you I suppose with the Russians sniffing around it's worth having a good deterrent.
Why anyone would be interested in these islands these days is tricky to fathom but I suppose it's quite a nice place to live.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 19, 2020 14:58:00 GMT
"This "killer virus" has so far managed to kill about 0.08 percent of the UK population (data on National Office of Statistics), of whom 98 percent were over 75 and had underlying health problems. The average age was 82.2 whereas the life expectancy in the UK is 81.6 years. Can someone explain why there is generalized hysteria about this?"
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Post by patty on Nov 19, 2020 15:07:31 GMT
Ah Christmas..... I quite fancy a picnic with Freya and maybe see the son who lives alone but won't come near as he's worried he'll give me Covid..he's the one thats had the virus. He will not come in and it would mean I could avoid too many people at daughters..seems a fair option all round. Says me.....
Theres lots of what is probably that their 'fake news' surrounding this festive event. Apparently late night shopping going ahead with lights switch on.... Nah not one for me.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 19, 2020 18:17:02 GMT
"An Office for National Statistics report today found there were 43,265 fatalities recorded last month — just eight more than in October 2019"
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 19, 2020 18:46:42 GMT
"An Office for National Statistics report today found there were 43,265 fatalities recorded last month — just eight more than in October 2019" That's only because people have stayed indoors and not got run over by buses!!
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Post by JohnV on Nov 19, 2020 18:48:56 GMT
"An Office for National Statistics report today found there were 43,265 fatalities recorded last month — just eight more than in October 2019" lies damned lies and statistics.
all depends how you select your figures,
In week 45, 2019 10,021 people died
in week 45, 2020 11,182 people died
all depends on how and when you select your figures
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 19, 2020 18:49:45 GMT
"An Office for National Statistics report today found there were 43,265 fatalities recorded last month — just eight more than in October 2019" lies damned lies and statistics.
all depends how you select your figures,
In week 45, 2019 10,021 people died
in week 45, 2020 11,182 people died
all depends on how and when you select your figures
The word "month" was the clue here.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 19, 2020 18:51:21 GMT
lies damned lies and statistics.
all depends how you select your figures,
In week 45, 2019 10,021 people died
in week 45, 2020 11,182 people died
all depends on how and when you select your figures
The word "month" was the clue here. exactly ..... a period selected because the figures showed what the person quoted wanted them to show
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 19, 2020 18:52:56 GMT
In week 45 2019 there was a bus strike.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 19, 2020 18:54:10 GMT
In week 45 2019 there was a bus strike. twat
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 19, 2020 18:55:24 GMT
The word "month" was the clue here. exactly ..... a period selected because the figures showed what the person quoted wanted them to show But a month, being a greater period than a week, tends to flatten out statistical anomalies rather than exaggerating them.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 19, 2020 19:17:36 GMT
exactly ..... a period selected because the figures showed what the person quoted wanted them to show But a month, being a greater period than a week, tends to flatten out statistical anomalies rather than exaggerating them. only if it happens to include weeks that happen to be lower than the average.
You really don't understand how statistics work do you.
many things need to be taken into account when trying to deduce facts from statistics, the weather, was there a flu epidemic in progress at the time etc, hundreds of other factors need to be taken into account. Without that comprehensive account of all factors the production of one months figures to attempt to prove or disprove a theory is completely and totally ...... crap
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 19:19:02 GMT
Try a year or so thats a decent period fullfact.org/online/2020-death-toll-comparison/A Facebook post shares a Twitter screenshot which claims to show the UK death toll in selected years. It suggests that the 2020 death toll will be comparable to previous years based on the number of deaths so far this year. This figure is wrong, because it fails to count deaths from two of the four nations in the UK. While it’s not possible to predict death figures with any certainty, doing a similar calculation with the correct figures would suggest a much higher death toll. Why the calculation is wrong The death figures presented for years between 2000 and 2018 are correct for the number of deaths registered in the UK each year (technically the figure for 2000 would round to 611,000 not 610,000 as shown). Due to delays in registering some deaths, the number of deaths that actually occurred in each year will be slightly different. The post then claims that there have been 454,000 deaths up until the week of 25 September, and if you add on the number of deaths in the first 13 weeks of 2020 to “predict the whole year” you get to a total of 603,000, which is not dissimilar to the death toll in previous years. However, the figure presented for 2020 so far only covers England and Wales, not the whole of the UK, which means that the comparison is flawed. If Scotland and Northern Ireland are included, using a similar method, the death toll this year would be considerably above recent years. Up to the week of 25 September, there have been 453,803 death registrations in England and Wales, 47,427 in Scotland, and 12,429 in Northern Ireland, for a total of 513,659. If you were to add on the number of deaths seen in England and Wales (134,763), Scotland (15,014) and Northern Ireland (4,388) from around 25 September 2019 to the end of 2019, then you would get a total of 667,824 deaths this year. That would be the highest annual death toll in the UK since 1985.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 19, 2020 19:23:47 GMT
That would be the highest annual death toll in the UK since 1985. So basically more people died in 1985 when the population was 56 million than in 2020 when the population is 68 million?
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