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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 7:27:39 GMT
I see Sir Trevor Phillips is back in the news this morning,what is it with this bloke? ennobled as another
example of tokenism,the Lenny Henry of Politics.All those years when he was head of The Commision of
Racial Equality the mantra was one of the benefits of Diversity and Social Inclusion,well it turns out it was
rubbish and for large swathes of the Muslim Community thats the way they want it.Now Trevor Phillips
recast as some sort of prophet,some sort of Poacher turned Gamekeeper wakes up to the facts that some
of us have known for a long time,we are NOT a Multicultural Society,we are a SOCIETY OF DIFFERENT CULTURES
that in the main never mix or socialise and that is something quite different.
It is no surprise to many that large sections of the Muslim Community want Sharia Law,want Separate Education,
are ANTI GAY,see Britain as an IMMORAL COUNTRY and don't want to integrate. Well Sir Trev its well meaning
halfwits like you thats brought us here as well as 13 years of a Labour Government that instigated and encouraged
the erosion of traditional British Values.Sir Trevor Phillips.....I wouldn't trust you to pick a banana.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 11, 2016 7:57:11 GMT
Rivers of blood anyone?
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Post by JohnV on Apr 11, 2016 8:10:00 GMT
It is actually worth going and actually reading the text of that speech with the benefit of hindsight. It was far less inflammatory and far less xenophobic or racist than many (some I suspect without ever having read it) would have you believe. A lot of it comes over as the fears of someone for the future of their children and grandchildren and a lot of the subject should have been discussed sensibly at the time, and not just screamed down by people looking to be offended.
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Post by peterboat on Apr 11, 2016 9:04:05 GMT
It can never work as south africa and other countries have proved it is far better as in the 50s to have one culture asians in our area just blended in now they have a separate society which clearly isnt working. We are all different but we have adapt to the mother culture for the system to work
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 9:04:30 GMT
You could take the argument all the way and say we are all different as individuals in the first place. It's just that we pick up our culture from the people and conditions around us. Culture isn't anything to do with colour though, that's where it all goes wrong.
Either way, respecting other cultures as far as we can is the way forward. There are limits to how far we can accept other cultures though. Taking an extreme exampe, would we tolerate a culture in this country who believe in cannibalism?
Tolerance is the first step. Persuasion the second. Sometimes force may be required if the threat from another culture threatens our existence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 11:05:35 GMT
You could take the argument all the way and say we are all different as individuals in the first place. It's just that we pick up our culture from the people and conditions around us. Culture isn't anything to do with colour though, that's where it all goes wrong. Either way, respecting other cultures as far as we can is the way forward. There are limits to how far we can accept other cultures though. Taking an extreme exampe, would we tolerate a culture in this country who believe in cannibalism? Tolerance is the first step. Persuasion the second. Sometimes force may be required if the threat from another culture threatens our existence. That last sentence could be a topic all on its own. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 19, 2016 7:29:59 GMT
Attachment DeletedFeel free to remove this if it offends anyone, I like the cartoon, that's all. (I often overstep the line, although I try not to).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 8:15:54 GMT
Feel free to remove this if it offends anyone, I like the cartoon, that's all. (I often overstep the line, although I try not to). You know in London at the weekend on the March Against Austerity I see the socialist workers with their Refugees Welcome Here banners.I have been a socialist all my life but how they can think that this country can accept a city the size of Newcastle every year just makes me fume. |
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Post by JohnV on Apr 19, 2016 11:10:48 GMT
about a year ago I was assisting someone applying for PIPS (personal independence payment) we had to go for an interview. the waiting room was full from memory about 8 or 9 groups of people, of those 8 or 9 claimants there were only two who were speaking English.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 11:37:19 GMT
about a year ago I was assisting someone applying for PIPS (personal independence payment) we had to go for an interview. the waiting room was full from memory about 8 or 9 groups of people, of those 8 or 9 claimants there were only two who were speaking English. The sad fact is John a large number of these people assuming they want to work are unemployable, especially those that come as a result of our Governments interference in others affairs,Iraq,Libya, Afghanistan etc. |
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Post by journeyperson on Apr 19, 2016 11:58:33 GMT
A multi-cultural society is by definition one where different cultures are allowed to exist side by side, it isn't one where cultures are intended to mix and absorb the culture of the host country. It's a recipe for conflict, not least when an enlightened culture is expected to co-exist with a medieval culture which wants to impose itself, but so far as I know it is still government policy.
Of course, when we were empire building we took our culture with us and hung onto it, whichever country we were running.
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Post by JohnV on Apr 19, 2016 15:04:27 GMT
I love reading your posts Foxy, you rarely fail to raise a grin but your logic has some strange twists
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 19, 2016 16:42:07 GMT
"The kids in the video couldn't even tell a short White guy that he isn't a 6'5" Asian woman.....that's how far society has fallen. In my day, we would have laughed at anyone so ridiculous. Now they watch that they don't offend, no matter how stupid they look." "Now, look back at the video and you will understand that the next generation are morons. And the next generation following is going to be even worse. Instead of the West getting more intelligent, we're regressing into precious petals scared of anything that isn't remotely pleasant." "Some young adults do recover from their stupor once reality hits, which is usually when they leave the safe-space of college and start looking for a job and start paying taxes. When they see that they are working so others can live free, that usually wakes them up quickly. The others still stuck in stupor-land, usually end up being bitter, twisted Communist agitators, who blame their lack of achievement on 'the system' - and then spend their lives fighting the system, while sucking on that system to keep them clothed, fed and warm - for free." From this: ozziesaffa.blogspot.fi/2016/04/usa-how-brain-dead-are-kids-in-college.html |
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