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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 9:21:57 GMT
I currently have just a standard brass fuel filler the type with a slot in the top that can be opened with a coin or screw driver. So I’m thinking of getting a lockable one. Something like this. www.floatyourboat.co.uk/locking-cap-deck-fillerThey come in two sizes 38mm and 50mm. Is the measurement the internal pipe diameter? Can anyone recommend a locking fuel filler? thanks
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Post by Jim on Dec 9, 2020 10:34:24 GMT
Not a clue myself, but I've heard dogless is kindly offering secure storage for spare keys, in case of emergency.
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Post by Gone on Dec 9, 2020 10:59:53 GMT
I currently have just a standard brass fuel filler the type with a slot in the top that can be opened with a coin or screw driver. So I’m thinking of getting a lockable one. Something like this. www.floatyourboat.co.uk/locking-cap-deck-fillerThey come in two sizes 38mm and 50mm. Is the measurement the internal pipe diameter? Can anyone recommend a locking fuel filler? thanks It’s probably the internal diameter of the pipe that fits on the tail end of the filler. If it’s for a ‘remote’ tank then there will be a pipe from the tank to the filler, but a narrowboat will often have a filler directly in the top of the tank and not use a pipe. The link you supplied shows the filer is marked with the word ‘Fuel’ or ‘Diesel’, the single word ‘Fuel’ is not acceptable for BSS, so if petrol you would need an additional indelible label. Also the BSS has requirements to ensure fuel spillage (overflow etc) is diverted away from the vessel interior etc, so that would need to be considered if fitting one of these. see section 2.1 www.boatsafetyscheme.org/media/268789/ecp-private-boats-ed3_rev2_apr2015_public_final.pdf
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 12:28:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 12:45:14 GMT
Er, the point of that sort of padlock is that they aren't easy to cut off...also its going to clank about and be generally annoying I should think.
The other sort of thing looks better to me...you don't need to buy one from a boat chandler either, search 'aircraft-type fuel filler' although stainless 316 seems a necessity.
As for a fuel spillage diverter, think a bit of metal (4mm thick?) resembling a coke can with the ends cut off and a slit cut in the side. If it was about 3" high this would also make it damn difficult to get some sort of prying tool in there too.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 9, 2020 18:01:31 GMT
Those locks maybe hard to cut but some of them are very easy to pick.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 18:06:54 GMT
I reckon it is better to disguise the whereabouts of the fuel filler rather than putting a lock on it. Also there are some inserts available which defeat the syphon option although I suspect they are probably easy to bypass. It seems logical for the first line of attack against fuel theft to be to make it less obvious where the filler is. Yes it is normally in the same place on narrow boats but does one usually have to remove a flower pot to access it ? Insert, which could be a waste of time I don't know. marinestore.co.uk/vetus-fuel-theft-security-device-fuelsafe.html
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Post by Gone on Dec 9, 2020 19:57:19 GMT
Those locks maybe hard to cut but some of them are very easy to pick. Sadly the deterrent works by making it harder to steal your diesel than the diesel from the next boat.
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Post by Jim on Dec 9, 2020 20:06:49 GMT
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Post by Jim on Dec 9, 2020 20:08:38 GMT
Those locks maybe hard to cut but some of them are very easy to pick. Sadly the deterrent works by making it harder to steal your diesel than the diesel from the next boat. Loosen the fuel cap on the next boat. Tighten your own. Job sorted.
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Post by JohnV on Dec 9, 2020 20:11:14 GMT
Sadly the deterrent works by making it harder to steal your diesel than the diesel from the next boat. Loosen the fuel cap on the next boat. Tighten your own. Job sorted. Your a wicked man Jim Riley
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Post by peterboat on Dec 9, 2020 20:18:11 GMT
Loosen the fuel cap on the next boat. Tighten your own. Job sorted. Your a wicked man Jim Riley Its actually true though John most thieves choose the path of least resistance, some years ago we had some break ins they chose the the boats furthest from the gate and people
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 20:20:39 GMT
This is why you disguise where the filler is.
Psychology.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 9, 2020 20:31:12 GMT
This is why you disguise where the filler is. Psychology. Or once the bss is done label it water.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 20:33:53 GMT
This is why you disguise where the filler is. Psychology. Or once the bss is done label it water. I know someone who filled a diesel tank with water. It was not me but that outcome is worse than the slightly remote chance of a pikey sucking your tank.
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