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Post by peterboat on Dec 15, 2020 18:54:11 GMT
Are those two drugs for rheumatoid arthritis Telemachus ? They sound quite brutal. Rog Not rheumatoid arthritis, which is quite a specific thing with a specific antibody marker. But there are lots of other types of inflamatory arthritis, which is what I have. They are all auto-immune type things. Yes that means my body hates me. You can't blame it really.
My problem started about 20 years ago, big toe joint sore and swollen. Then the other big toe. Then other toes so that I couldn't walk on the front of my feet, had to walk on my heels. Also had a problem with a baker cyst behind my right knee. Fortunately no effect on my hands.
Fortunately had private health care with my employer so went to see a rheumatologist fairly promptly (once GP had checked for gout, which it wasn't). He put me on sulfasalazine and in a week I went from not really being able to put weight on my feet, to being fine. But after a few years the efficacy started to wear off so I went on to methotrexate as well, just 10mg once a week which is quite a small dose. Although it isn't nice to have to take pills for the rest of one's life, especially something as powerful and sinister as , it is better than not being able to walk. With the medication I am pretty much symptom free - well maybe the odd ache here and there but then as you keep telling me, I am VERY OLD!
Only lasting damage is my 2 big toe joints which have lost a lot of movement, due to damage accumulated in the short time between it starting up, and starting on the medication (a few months). Which just goes to show how much damage can be quickly accrued by inflatammatory arthritis without proper medication. Some people try to control it with NSAIDs but that just masks the symptoms a bit, without stopping the damage.
I feel for you nick I spent six months injecting Jayne with Methotrexate it made her really ill to say the least and in the end it wasnt needed as it was the wrong diagnosis she was as sick as a chip with the consultant in the end
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 15, 2020 19:27:06 GMT
Not rheumatoid arthritis, which is quite a specific thing with a specific antibody marker. But there are lots of other types of inflamatory arthritis, which is what I have. They are all auto-immune type things. Yes that means my body hates me. You can't blame it really.
My problem started about 20 years ago, big toe joint sore and swollen. Then the other big toe. Then other toes so that I couldn't walk on the front of my feet, had to walk on my heels. Also had a problem with a baker cyst behind my right knee. Fortunately no effect on my hands.
Fortunately had private health care with my employer so went to see a rheumatologist fairly promptly (once GP had checked for gout, which it wasn't). He put me on sulfasalazine and in a week I went from not really being able to put weight on my feet, to being fine. But after a few years the efficacy started to wear off so I went on to methotrexate as well, just 10mg once a week which is quite a small dose. Although it isn't nice to have to take pills for the rest of one's life, especially something as powerful and sinister as , it is better than not being able to walk. With the medication I am pretty much symptom free - well maybe the odd ache here and there but then as you keep telling me, I am VERY OLD!
Only lasting damage is my 2 big toe joints which have lost a lot of movement, due to damage accumulated in the short time between it starting up, and starting on the medication (a few months). Which just goes to show how much damage can be quickly accrued by inflatammatory arthritis without proper medication. Some people try to control it with NSAIDs but that just masks the symptoms a bit, without stopping the damage.
I feel for you nick I spent six months injecting Jayne with Methotrexate it made her really ill to say the least and in the end it wasnt needed as it was the wrong diagnosis she was as sick as a chip with the consultant in the end Honestly there is absolutely no need for sympathy. I take a pill once a week, I have no side effects, it fixes my problem. Well when I say "no side effects" the only thing I noticed is that it makes me pee overnight more than normal. But that is hardly a tragedy (yes I do get to the loo in time!). Oh and I have to take folic acid 3 days later, even though I doubt I will ever get pregnant.
You will have been giving Jayne a massive dose, perhaps 30 times as much as I have. No wonder she felt awful.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 15, 2020 20:56:44 GMT
Stabbers has brought this up before, but with everybody wearing masks now, mainly 'for show' (in my opinion), this whole Coronavirus affair seems to be becoming a pyschogenic illness. Mass psychogenic illness, also called mass sociogenic illness, mass psychogenic disorder, epidemic hysteria, or mass hysteria, is "the rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms affecting members of a cohesive group, originating from a nervous system disturbance involving excitation, loss, or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology". In other words, you're all going mad. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_maniaIts funny how people deal with difficult situations. Some people go into denial. In you case, you are going in to de kennet. Same difference I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:59:13 GMT
I don't engage in mask wearing and one thing I have noticed is that all of the checkout or till assistants I have interacted with seemed very pleased about me exposing myself. I was fully clothed however.
I put this down to one of two things.
1. I am incredibly good looking and this transcends any societal norms vis a vis rule based principles of attraction and everyone just thinks "oh yes!".
2. People working in shops are pissed off looking at masked faces and really like seeing a real one.
It could well be both of these factors
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 15, 2020 21:10:27 GMT
Stabbers has brought this up before, but with everybody wearing masks now, mainly 'for show' (in my opinion), this whole Coronavirus affair seems to be becoming a pyschogenic illness. Face masks are simply psychological muzzles, used as a tool of oppression. Everybody knows they don't do anything but everybody wears one because everybody else does. Everybody knows that the people they know are not dropping dead en masse but still they are expected to act as if they are. Possibly the whole thing is due to ergotism which is why countries which traditionally do not consume bread seem to be largely free of the stupidity.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 15, 2020 21:32:01 GMT
Stabbers has brought this up before, but with everybody wearing masks now, mainly 'for show' (in my opinion), this whole Coronavirus affair seems to be becoming a pyschogenic illness. Face masks are simply psychological muzzles, used as a tool of oppression. Everybody knows they don't do anything but everybody wears one because everybody else does. Everybody knows that the people they know are not dropping dead en masse but still they are expected to act as if they are. Possibly the whole thing is due to ergotism which is why countries which traditionally do not consume bread seem to be largely free of the stupidity. No I don’t personally know anyone who has dropped dead, but I do know two people who had it and were very ill for a long time. If wearing a mask reduces the chance of that happening to me, or me giving that to someone else, it seems a tiny inconvenience that is more than worth it. What is a bit interesting is that despite all the doom and gloom from Nicola today, and with a lot of infections, there are only 23 people in the entirety of Scotland in intensive care. I guess this is partly due to those very vulnerable already having died, but also I think due to the better understanding of how to stop an infection becoming very serious or fatal, eg treatment with dexamethasone. My question is, with an increasing % of society vaccinated, had it or dead, at what point do we stop worrying so much about infection rates any more than we do with say flu or colds? I would be inclined to offer vaccinations to everyone who wants it, then remove all restrictions and behavioural changes, then sit back and watch Darwin in action. The planet would certainly like that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 21:58:12 GMT
I"ve seen some nice wave at xmas when I was gliding at Dishforth, very cold.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 15, 2020 22:10:15 GMT
I"ve seen some nice wave at xmas when I was gliding at Dishforth, very cold. Yes you can get wave any time, but it is mostly nearer the equinoxes rather than the solstices. The main things with gliding in the middle of winter in the Highlands of Scotland are the very short days, the soggy airfield and the canopy misting issue. And you can get long periods of high pressure "nothing happening" though we haven't had that yet. I still managed to get in about 30 hours this year so not too bad, and next year is going to be so much better. Isn't it. (that was a statement, not a question!)
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Post by duncan on Dec 15, 2020 22:16:30 GMT
Face masks are simply psychological muzzles, used as a tool of oppression. Everybody knows they don't do anything but everybody wears one because everybody else does. Everybody knows that the people they know are not dropping dead en masse but still they are expected to act as if they are. Possibly the whole thing is due to ergotism which is why countries which traditionally do not consume bread seem to be largely free of the stupidity. No I don’t personally know anyone who has dropped dead, but I do know two people who had it and were very ill for a long time. If wearing a mask reduces the chance of that happening to me, or me giving that to someone else, it seems a tiny inconvenience that is more than worth it. What is a bit interesting is that despite all the doom and gloom from Nicola today, and with a lot of infections, there are only 23 people in the entirety of Scotland in intensive care. I guess this is partly due to those very vulnerable already having died, but also I think due to the better understanding of how to stop an infection becoming very serious or fatal, eg treatment with dexamethasone. My question is, with an increasing % of society vaccinated, had it or dead, at what point do we stop worrying so much about infection rates any more than we do with say flu or colds? I would be inclined to offer vaccinations to everyone who wants it, then remove all restrictions and behavioural changes, then sit back and watch Darwin in action. The planet would certainly like that. Yes, there doesn't seem much point in having the vaccine if you are still going to be in tier 3, with all pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc closed, and you still can't see family/friends inside. There will have to be a point in time when all restrictions are lifted, but I can see it being Easter before that happens.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 15, 2020 22:17:47 GMT
No I don’t personally know anyone who has dropped dead, but I do know two people who had it and were very ill for a long time. If wearing a mask reduces the chance of that happening to me, or me giving that to someone else, it seems a tiny inconvenience that is more than worth it. What is a bit interesting is that despite all the doom and gloom from Nicola today, and with a lot of infections, there are only 23 people in the entirety of Scotland in intensive care. I guess this is partly due to those very vulnerable already having died, but also I think due to the better understanding of how to stop an infection becoming very serious or fatal, eg treatment with dexamethasone. My question is, with an increasing % of society vaccinated, had it or dead, at what point do we stop worrying so much about infection rates any more than we do with say flu or colds? I would be inclined to offer vaccinations to everyone who wants it, then remove all restrictions and behavioural changes, then sit back and watch Darwin in action. The planet would certainly like that. Yes, there doesn't seem much point in having the vaccine if you are still going to be in tier 3, with all pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc closed, and you still can't see family/friends inside. There will have to be a point in time when all restrictions are lifted, but I can see it being Easter before that happens. What we don't seem to know is that if you have the vaccine and a few weeks have elapsed thus your immunity has built up, can you still be a silent carrier?
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Post by patty on Dec 16, 2020 8:41:36 GMT
Yes, there doesn't seem much point in having the vaccine if you are still going to be in tier 3, with all pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc closed, and you still can't see family/friends inside. There will have to be a point in time when all restrictions are lifted, but I can see it being Easter before that happens. What we don't seem to know is that if you have the vaccine and a few weeks have elapsed thus your immunity has built up, can you still be a silent carrier? I wonder that with those who have had the disease and then carry on as normal with the assumption as they have antibodies there are immune. My middle son falls in this category..that said he is extremely careful to shower and change all his clothes before he brings grandson here..and if grandson has been out he ensures that he comes washed and in clean clothes. Over cautious?..Maybe ..but its reassuring for me that he makes the effort. I don't expect we will know yet if those with antibodies can be carriers but it could account for the spike in cases. I guess we can only be safe when the majority have been vaccinated.
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