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Post by thebfg on Dec 16, 2020 20:15:26 GMT
Religions are no different to the majority of cults. Just bigger.
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Post by bodger on Dec 17, 2020 8:16:07 GMT
You mean 'gobshite' is a religion? Ross must be the high priest. Mr Turner to you.
I am becoming persuaded that the fox is a narcissistic buffoon, a bit like Trump - he believes in himself so much that he thinks any publicity is good publicity.
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Post by bodger on Dec 17, 2020 8:18:26 GMT
I don't think that religion itself could be a conspiracy theory. It is definitely a conspiracy but not in itself a theory. It's real. Obviously the existence of a deity is clearly impossible but the existence of religion is very real. One could engage in a conspiracy theory type of outlook regarding religion in general but I find it better to just accept that some people have "issues". I'd argue that it is a theory, born out of the desire to make sense of the world and then turned into trying to maintain control over the 'heathens' that were not behaving themselves. exactly.
a bit like covid deniers - many of them kill people because they have an airy-fairy and unrealistic viewpoint on life and humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 8:39:47 GMT
I'd argue that it is a theory, born out of the desire to make sense of the world and then turned into trying to maintain control over the 'heathens' that were not behaving themselves. exactly.
a bit like covid deniers - many of them kill people because they have an airy-fairy and unrealistic viewpoint on life and humanity.
Contrary to popular belief, not all people with a faith are hell bent on killing people. I'm sure many athiests have killed and caused suffering around the world too. Polarised thinking is what causes the problems in this world. Divide and conquer. Merry Christmas.... 🙂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 9:15:47 GMT
Contrary to popular belief, not all people with a faith are hell bent on killing people. Although not religious, the old churches of England have always been of interest to me (brass rubbing, bell ringing, architectural fascination, nice quiet places to have your lunch) and I sometimes like to attend church services, such as on Christmas Eve the Midnight Mass, which gives me the feeling that Christmas has arrived. Although many are hypocrites, having arrived at church in their very expensive new cars, when they should do as they preach and give all their money to the poor, 'Christians' generally seem to be a benign, well-meaning and friendly lot. You can go into an English church and feel the atmosphere soaking into you... the musty smell, surrounded by ancient monuments exquisitely carved - real people and real History, the play on the light streaming through the stained glass windows, and the caw of jackdaws high up in the branches of the trees in the graveyard. Knaresborough We're all hypocrites Foxy. It doesn't matter whether you're 'religious' or not, intelligent or not, if there is no love in it, then there is usually a problem. One thing I've found about judging others is that it's often like talking into a mirror. Sometimes it's best to judge yourself before judging others. (says me who is work in progress!) 🙄
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 17, 2020 9:30:58 GMT
exactly.
a bit like covid deniers - many of them kill people because they have an airy-fairy and unrealistic viewpoint on life and humanity.
Contrary to popular belief, not all people with a faith are hell bent on killing people. I'm sure many athiests have killed and caused suffering around the world too. Polarised thinking is what causes the problems in this world. Divide and conquer. Merry Christmas.... 🙂 All true. The elephant in your room is that religion is one of the best vehicles for promoting, promulgating and propagating polarised thinking. (do I get a prize for alliteration?)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 9:39:15 GMT
Contrary to popular belief, not all people with a faith are hell bent on killing people. I'm sure many athiests have killed and caused suffering around the world too. Polarised thinking is what causes the problems in this world. Divide and conquer. Merry Christmas.... 🙂 All true. The elephant in your room is that religion is one of the best vehicles for promoting, promulgating and propagating polarised thinking. (do I get a prize for alliteration?) Yes, I agree, although as I've just said, we all suffer from it, not just religious people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 11:37:27 GMT
... promoting, promulgating and propagating polarised thinking. (do I get a prize for alliteration?) No. You should have used a word starting with p instead of 'thinking'.
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Post by patty on Dec 17, 2020 12:58:00 GMT
Contrary to popular belief, not all people with a faith are hell bent on killing people. I'm sure many athiests have killed and caused suffering around the world too. Polarised thinking is what causes the problems in this world. Divide and conquer. Merry Christmas.... 🙂 All true. The elephant in your room is that religion is one of the best vehicles for promoting, promulgating and propagating polarised thinking. (do I get a prize for alliteration?) I love alliteration ...I may borrow those words....
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 17, 2020 13:06:58 GMT
... promoting, promulgating and propagating polarised thinking. (do I get a prize for alliteration?) No. You should have used a word starting with p instead of 'thinking'. I did think about “positing” but it doesn’t really mean the same thing. Anyway, it seemed appropriate to use the same word as BP.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 6:32:34 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Jan 14, 2021 7:30:25 GMT
sigh look between the lines to see the cracks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 8:58:33 GMT
sigh look between the lines to see the cracks Sigh. All very well but you haven't said what you think the cracks are... I see it as a positive thing, but I'm beginning to wonder whether some people wouid prefer lockdowns to go on indefinately and sod the millions of younger people who haven't had the chance to live out a full life yet. I think the measures could well end up killing more people than the virus over the next year or so with the cancelled operations, scans and treatment. I also still maintain that the psycological damage to 10s of millions of people will result in the NHS being overwhelmed, not just due to psycological issues but also due to stress lowering immunity (proven scientifically).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 9:00:18 GMT
I'm certain you are right. The survival of already unhealthy people is being prioritised over future health of currently healthy people. Well dodgy and I smell a rat here somewhere. Could it just be that big pharma has too much control over the world ? After all it (pharmaceuticals) is one of the largest industries ever developed by humans.. Don't forget that a lot of the existing profits being made are from products used by people who would otherwise be dead. So it is VERY useful from a business point of view to keep these people alive as long as possible as a dead person won't consume your products. Healthy people are no use. You want living but unhealthy people. Loads and loads of depressed people seeking medication is a real ker-ching! moment Ideal win win situation.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 14, 2021 9:17:08 GMT
sigh look between the lines to see the cracks Sigh. All very well but you haven't said what you think the cracks are... I see it as a positive thing, but I'm beginning to wonder whether some people wouid prefer lockdowns to go on indefinately and sod the millions of younger people who haven't had the chance to live out a full life yet. I think the measures could well end up killing more people than the virus over the next year or so with the cancelled operations, scans and treatment. I also still maintain that the psycological damage to 10s of millions of people will result in the NHS being overwhelmed, not just due to psycological issues but also due to stress lowering immunity (proven scientifically). ok .... some of the cracks
un published, preliminary report not peer reviewed . deals only with a specific small group of the population and only then with ones who survived the first infection and were fit enough to join the trial "eg no long covid"
That means any percentages taken from the results have to be regarded with a great deal of caution. You can't extrapolate from a narrow base report or in fact from any single report, unless it has been carefully reviewed
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