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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 20:51:25 GMT
I'm firmly in the "it's all bollocks' camp already to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 7:55:41 GMT
I'm firmly in the "it's all bollocks' camp already to be honest. When this all started , it was about saving half a million lives. When that wasn't convincing enough, it moved to saving the NHS from being overloaded. The latest news is that we now have more beds occupied that ever since the start of the pandemic. However what we are not told is how many beds are normally occupied in January in previous years. The winter is always busy for obvious reasons. The data for December 2020 shows less bed occupancy than for 2019. I wonder what January will look like? Meanwhile the backlog of delayed/cancelled operations, scans and treatment builds up. Meamwhile there is more and more stress. I can't find any risk analysis to detemrmine the number of excess deaths this may cause and whether this will overload the NHS. I wonder whether the cabinet and SAGE have any?
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Post by JohnV on Jan 19, 2021 8:04:26 GMT
I'm firmly in the "it's all bollocks' camp already to be honest. The data for December 2020 shows less bed occupancy than for 2019. I wonder what January will look like? I haven't been and checked but but even if accurate that figure might be very misleading.
As I understand it the bottleneck is not so much "beds" as such but high dependency beds.
When operating theatres are being converted into emergency high dependency units (which they are in many hospitals) then the shit is real
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 8:14:53 GMT
The data for December 2020 shows less bed occupancy than for 2019. I wonder what January will look like? I haven't been and checked but but even if accurate that figure might be very misleading.
As I understand it the bottleneck is not so much "beds" as such but high dependency beds.
When operating theatres are being converted into emergency high dependency units (which they are in many hospitals) then the shit is real
On the high dependency units, so why have some Nightingale units been mothballed? So where is the risk analysis I mentioned? That was my main point. Don't you think the public should be told how many excess deaths there may be due to the fallout of all this? After all, they did predict half a million deaths due to Covid!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 8:17:32 GMT
And medication.
Let's have some statistics about medications being consumed.
Things like anti depressants, painkillers etc.
Or is that commercially sensitive information not fit for consumption by the plebs.
All this plays into the hands of big pharmaceuticals. You can often keep people alive artificially if you throw enough pills at them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 8:20:57 GMT
I see the lunatics are taking over the asylum
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Post by patty on Jan 19, 2021 8:21:38 GMT
The data for December 2020 shows less bed occupancy than for 2019. I wonder what January will look like? I haven't been and checked but but even if accurate that figure might be very misleading.
As I understand it the bottleneck is not so much "beds" as such but high dependency beds.
When operating theatres are being converted into emergency high dependency units (which they are in many hospitals) then the shit is real
I've heard some awful facts from family in the front line.. The problem is the news says the same every day and people get de sensitised..its having the reverse result from what they wanted... High Dependency/ITU beds are needed not just for Covid but also RTA and specialised surgery..the latter on hold So much can be said but we are all just recycling that which we all know..and the unconvinced will remain non believers....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 14:31:37 GMT
Stay at home, wash your hands and cover your face.
Our mums used to say..
Keep away from strangers, wash your hands and cover your mouth when you cough.
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Post by patty on Jan 19, 2021 16:16:46 GMT
I pass this lady every morning who wears a face mask that seems to cover nearly all her face..she then wears this long green mac with hood on and green waterproof trousers..I presume it is an cover all that protects her..how on earth she can see to cross roads I dunno..
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Post by thebfg on Jan 20, 2021 16:43:27 GMT
I see the lunatics are taking over the asylum Nah, they won't let Andrew loose.
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