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Post by quaysider on Dec 29, 2020 7:38:32 GMT
. . . . . . . . . . boat controls are always very stiff, lifting the top of the Morse knob is often two hands, but off I went, boat seemed a a bit sluggish, so opened up a bit, inevitably things went from bad to worse, could not easily get the thing in to neutral, then could not get it in to gear. Turned off engine, down the weedhatch, removed rope, and fishing line, washed hands etc, decided to reverse back to mooring, but it was not going to easily engage gear, I 'applied lots of oil, to the control lever pivot point, the cables near the engine block are regularly oiled. It seemed to work in "out of gear mode", which entails pulling the control towards centre of boat, back and forward, but not in gear. I tried spraying light oil up to top of knob, but never convinced this eases things much. and also : I thought it might be that, not sure how to access the area. I'll ask someone to have a look at, if he is willing, but I will send for a new cable, is there a spares kit? The boat is maybe 17 years old, and has always been stiff, since I have had it, ie last two years, but I've been too chicken to do anything about it. PS seems to be a fair amount of grease escaping from the forward plate near the prop shaft. the pair of nuts, forming locknut are both there, should I try to tighten them by slackening outer nut first, then tightening both? Engine control cables of that age are apt to fail (break) at any time without warning and are well overdue for routine replacement in any case. Replace both of them, with two new ones of the same spec. and lengths, . . but don't be tempted to keep the one that's still working OK as a standby spare, . . it's far too old to be reliable. If you want to carry a spare cable then buy three new ones, . . and if the existing cables are of different lengths, but of the same size and spec., then buy x 2 of the longer one and x 1 of the shorter one. Check the condition of the end fittings (clevises and pins, machine screws and nuts for clamps, washers and split pins, or spring clips etc.) before ordering the new cables and order at least one new set of four, if the existing ones are serviceable, and two new sets of four if they're not - one set to be fitted with the new cables, and the second set to carried as spares along with the new cable. Don't worry about adjusting the stuffing box packing follower for the moment if it's only grease that it's letting by and there's little or no water getting past it. If you don't already know this, it's best practice to operate the stern bearing/tube greaser whilst the shaft is turning, . . it helps to distribute the grease along the whole length of the tube much better than doing it with the shaft not turning, and helps to flush any dirt and grit out of the outer bush. Thanks for that obvious but rather NOT obvious to me yet bit of info... despite thinking of myself as mechanically (well reasonably for a poof) minded person, It's never occurred to me to do this but it DOES Make perfect sense!
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 29, 2020 8:19:03 GMT
Yeah, but it's just like women and cars, they can't be bothered to read anything about how it works, just drive it until it breaks down, and then expect a man to come along and fix it. Here we have a classic case. Don't generalise.... Thats a stupid thing to say. Can you change a wheel if you get a puncture, Patty? How about the light bulbs? Fuses? Do you know your tyre pressures, and do you ever check them yourself?
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 9:14:51 GMT
Yeah, but it's just like women and cars, they can't be bothered to read anything about how it works, just drive it until it breaks down, and then expect a man to come along and fix it. Here we have a classic case. Morning naughtyfox, I dare you to show this to Pirrko and publish her reply. Joo, mutta se on aivan kuten naiset ja autot, heitä ei voi vaivautua lukemaan mitään siitä, miten se toimii, aja vain sitä, kunnes se hajoaa, ja odottaa sitten miehen tulemaan mukaan ja korjaamaan sen. Tässä meillä on klassinen tapaus. Off to the woodshed with you, don't forget your blanket!
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 9:17:34 GMT
Don't generalise.... Thats a stupid thing to say. Can you change a wheel if you get a puncture, Patty? How about the light bulbs? Fuses? Do you know your tyre pressures, and do you ever check them yourself? I reckon patty would give it a go. There are many people around that lack the skill to do such things, gender is irrelevant.
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Post by quaysider on Dec 29, 2020 9:22:04 GMT
I have Proof that a certain lady is more than capable of mechanical things... not piddly little half pint oil changes but big boy 8 litre ones....
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 9:29:48 GMT
I have Proof that a certain lady is more than capable of mechanical things... not piddly little half pint oil changes but big boy 8 litre ones.... And she's not even put her boots on yet...
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 9:56:04 GMT
The wonders of the algorithm, this just popped up on my Facebook feed. Facebook must be monitoring naughtyfox.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 29, 2020 10:19:39 GMT
Can you change a wheel if you get a puncture, Patty? How about the light bulbs? Fuses? Do you know your tyre pressures, and do you ever check them yourself? I reckon patty would give it a go. There are many people around that lack the skill to do such things, gender is irrelevant. Rubbish. Airline pilots, train drivers, miners, butchers - nearly all men. Women do not care for mechanical things. They prefer going into nursing and teaching (eh, girls?).
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 10:24:42 GMT
Morning naughtyfox , I dare you to show this to Pirrko and publish her reply. Joo, mutta se on aivan kuten naiset ja autot, heitä ei voi vaivautua lukemaan mitään siitä, miten se toimii, aja vain sitä, kunnes se hajoaa, ja odottaa sitten miehen tulemaan mukaan ja korjaamaan sen. Tässä meillä on klassinen tapaus. Off to the woodshed with you, don't forget your blanket! Yes, i can read that, quite a straight translation. Pirkko would agree. Which is why I look after our car, and she irons my shirts. You have her Ironing? Gave that up years ago. Pirrko "What's my christmas prezzie, dearest?" "an i-Ron dear, very modern, now set to and get the wrinkles out of my skidders, merry christmas"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 10:29:10 GMT
My woman tyres and exhausts me.
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Post by Jim on Dec 29, 2020 10:34:54 GMT
Mine fettles my parts wonderfully
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Post by patty on Dec 29, 2020 11:39:54 GMT
Don't generalise.... Thats a stupid thing to say. Can you change a wheel if you get a puncture, Patty? How about the light bulbs? Fuses? Do you know your tyre pressures, and do you ever check them yourself? Yes I can change a tyre should I need to though wheel nuts are a bit difficult to undo and tighten adequately so i do tend to get some help..now days there doesn't tend to be spare tyres in cars just that filler stuff..which yes I know what to do with that... Yes I can change fuses, rewire a plug Yes I always check my tyre pressures ..have done for years I changed fuses on the boat when I had it.. I may not be brilliant at DIY but I always try to have a go unless its something out of my range...eg what happened to the bathroom..and when they unpeeled that particular onion I was glad I hadn't had a go...I won't touch electrics other than fuses and plugs because thats just stupid. So just take your narrow minded stereotypical views and shove them where the sun don't shine.....
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Post by patty on Dec 29, 2020 11:41:30 GMT
I reckon patty would give it a go. There are many people around that lack the skill to do such things, gender is irrelevant. Rubbish. Airline pilots, train drivers, miners, butchers - nearly all men. Women do not care for mechanical things. They prefer going into nursing and teaching (eh, girls?). Dunno why I bite really... You are a twat...
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Post by brummieboy on Dec 29, 2020 12:11:02 GMT
Back in the late 70's, when I drove buses (big double deckers without power steering or automatic gearboxes), there was a lady driver at our garage who always had full make up and a bouffant hairdo. At 5'2" and about 8 stone you'd hardly call her tomboy, but she was as capable as any of the hairy a***d blokes with B.O. at handling real buses.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 13:20:31 GMT
. . . . . . . . . . boat controls are always very stiff, lifting the top of the Morse knob is often two hands, but off I went, boat seemed a a bit sluggish, so opened up a bit, inevitably things went from bad to worse, could not easily get the thing in to neutral, then could not get it in to gear. Turned off engine, down the weedhatch, removed rope, and fishing line, washed hands etc, decided to reverse back to mooring, but it was not going to easily engage gear, I 'applied lots of oil, to the control lever pivot point, the cables near the engine block are regularly oiled. It seemed to work in "out of gear mode", which entails pulling the control towards centre of boat, back and forward, but not in gear. I tried spraying light oil up to top of knob, but never convinced this eases things much. and also : I thought it might be that, not sure how to access the area. I'll ask someone to have a look at, if he is willing, but I will send for a new cable, is there a spares kit? The boat is maybe 17 years old, and has always been stiff, since I have had it, ie last two years, but I've been too chicken to do anything about it. PS seems to be a fair amount of grease escaping from the forward plate near the prop shaft. the pair of nuts, forming locknut are both there, should I try to tighten them by slackening outer nut first, then tightening both? Engine control cables of that age are apt to fail (break) at any time without warning and are well overdue for routine replacement in any case. Replace both of them, with two new ones of the same spec. and lengths, . . but don't be tempted to keep the one that's still working OK as a standby spare, . . it's far too old to be reliable. If you want to carry a spare cable then buy three new ones, . . and if the existing cables are of different lengths, but of the same size and spec., then buy x 2 of the longer one and x 1 of the shorter one. Check the condition of the end fittings (clevises and pins, machine screws and nuts for clamps, washers and split pins, or spring clips etc.) before ordering the new cables and order at least one new set of four, if the existing ones are serviceable, and two new sets of four if they're not - one set to be fitted with the new cables, and the second set to carried as spares along with the new cable. Don't worry about adjusting the stuffing box packing follower for the moment if it's only grease that it's letting by and there's little or no water getting past it. If you don't already know this, it's best practice to operate the stern bearing/tube greaser whilst the shaft is turning, . . it helps to distribute the grease along the whole length of the tube much better than doing it with the shaft not turning, and helps to flush any dirt and grit out of the outer bush. I have been greasing the stuffing box all wrong, inevitably, lol. Re controls, cables, etc. I think best thing is to replace the lot and buy spares, bearing in mind I'm never going to be any more isolated than I am today. The new control levers look much smarter... so in my mind, it's an upgrade. Cost/benefit analysis =+ve
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