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Post by cygnus on Mar 16, 2021 17:41:23 GMT
At this time we are at near normal level and afloat at last, but we remain alert. The defective emergency gates are about 5ft ajar, and the secondary stop planks are still there but invisible, submerged below the surface because they just removed the top section. This means that the levels are now being equalised either side of the gates, but stop craft passing through. The docks still aren't letting pleasure craft pen through.
So there we have it. Marooned in Goole, and still paying CRT just shy of £100 per month for the privelage of being aground for 3 months and their incompetence.
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Post by cygnus on Mar 26, 2021 9:55:46 GMT
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Post by cygnus on Mar 26, 2021 9:57:52 GMT
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Post by JohnV on Mar 26, 2021 9:59:18 GMT
Thanks for re-posting that Joe ..... Lord it's depressing isn't it
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Post by kris on Mar 26, 2021 10:11:03 GMT
Thanks for re-posting that Joe ..... Lord it's depressing isn't it It’s definately depressing.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 26, 2021 16:47:12 GMT
Ref. that last line in the above CWDF post saying - " . . . put pressure on ABP to allow leisure craft stuck in Goole to escape via the Ouse" - are ABP actually refusing to pen pleasure craft into the river purely because of Covid-19 restrictions, . . or is the refusal at least partly due to conserving water to keep the level in the Docks up ?
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Post by cygnus on Mar 26, 2021 17:30:29 GMT
I have seen something from ABP about the "optimising of lock usage" to preserve water, but I seem to remember that leisure boats couldn't get through Ocean Lock in the Spring Covid lockdown. So maybe it's both. Hopefully things will change as we come out of lockdown. As for CRT, my opinion of them is unprintable.
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Post by quaysider on Mar 26, 2021 18:19:46 GMT
I've just seen the latest notice - saying another update will be issued on the new culvert problem on the mac - 7th April , ergo, nothing will happen before then.
They really are going down in my estimations. Leisure boating may well not be 'allowed' but some boaters DO need to travel around still and imho covid is being used as an excuse for doing sweet fa all over the place.
It's a total shambles... both decent routes from the northern canals to the rest of the world (without using the trent) apparently closed until they can be arsed to BEGIN!
I really feel for you cygnus.
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Post by quaysider on Mar 26, 2021 18:48:11 GMT
Mines just under 2k this year... to NOT to be able to move or operate a business.
Thanks for the reminder.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 26, 2021 19:55:27 GMT
Mines [Licence] just under 2k this year... to NOT to be able to move or operate a business. In their Brothers Grimm boat Licence T&C's the C&RT insist, quite wrongly, that any boat licence issued by the Trust is a 'contract' between the licence holder and the Trust. Why don't you turn this piece of pseudo-legalistic nonsense straight round and throw it back at them with a refusal to pay, citing breach of contract on the part of the Trust ?
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Post by quaysider on Mar 26, 2021 20:06:10 GMT
'cause in truth, I've enough plates spinning trying to work around all the balls ups/covid/ divorce loans to earn enough money through whatever means to keep hold of my house and try to have some kind of boating business that I otherwise enjoy...
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 27, 2021 10:17:51 GMT
'cause in truth, I've enough plates spinning trying to work around all the balls ups/covid/ divorce loans to earn enough money through whatever means to keep hold of my house and try to have some kind of boating business that I otherwise enjoy... Ultimately, it IS your choice, . . and your decision to make, . . but what incentive is there, or is there ever likely to be, for the Government to re-examine the fate to which it condemned our inland waterways when the private limited company to which it handed them over is allowed to continue to demonstrate just how easy it is to get its 'customers' to keep paying up regardless in return for a service they're not getting ?
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Post by patty on Mar 27, 2021 10:46:00 GMT
'cause in truth, I've enough plates spinning trying to work around all the balls ups/covid/ divorce loans to earn enough money through whatever means to keep hold of my house and try to have some kind of boating business that I otherwise enjoy... Ultimately, it IS your choice, . . and your decision to make, . . but what incentive is there, or is there ever likely to be, for the Government to re-examine the fate to which it condemned our inland waterways when the private limited company to which it handed them over is allowed to continue to demonstrate just how easy it is to get its 'customers' to keep paying up regardless in return for a service they're not getting ? not everyone can fight the fight u chose to fight... The choice you make is admirable but the stakes you gamble with are high.. I wouldn't walk your road, I couldn't risk losing my home.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 27, 2021 13:44:21 GMT
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 27, 2021 17:43:06 GMT
Ultimately, it IS your choice, . . and your decision to make, . . but what incentive is there, or is there ever likely to be, for the Government to re-examine the fate to which it condemned our inland waterways when the private limited company to which it handed them over is allowed to continue to demonstrate just how easy it is to get its 'customers' to keep paying up regardless in return for a service they're not getting ? not everyone can fight the fight u chose to fight... The choice you make is admirable but the stakes you gamble with are high.. I wouldn't walk your road, I couldn't risk losing my home. In all honesty, Patty, . . taking on C&RT with any sort of challenge to their corruption and shortcomings really is NOT the high risk strategy that most people see it as, . . unless you push things to the absolute limit and refuse to back down under any circumstances. It took something a little over 5 years of flat refusals on my part to buy one of their fictitious "Rivers only Licences" to provoke them into the rash, ill-considered and totally unlawful action they eventually took on 22 October last year, . . and they were still sending me 'Final Warning' letters up until only a matter of days before turning up with a Criminal Boat Services tow-boat and the undercover pseudo-Ninja 'Bailiffs'. I would never expect, or even attempt to encourage, anyone to risk pushing any sort of dispute with C&RT to the extent that I have. What I would say to each and every one of C&RT's 'customers' as part owners of the inland waterways that C&RT are systematically destroying - the canals were 'nationalized' and taken into "public ownership" in 1949 - is that it's their duty to protest against and to register their disapproval of both C&RT's lousy performance and the appalling, and unlawful, conduct that has accompanied it. Refusing to pay a licence fee for services that are not being provided - by a private limited company - seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable way of drawing the Government's attention to the failings of the destructive and unregulated monster it created in 2012 post the abolition of the (nationalized) British Waterways Board.
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