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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 10:17:22 GMT
"For the truth of things and the benefit thereof are better found by a few folk who are wise and full of reason, rather than by a great multitude of people in which every man shouts out and prattles on about whatever he wants." (Chaucer)
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Post by Jim on Feb 15, 2021 12:00:38 GMT
"For the truth of things and the benefit thereof are better found by a few folk who are wise and full of reason, rather than by a great multitude of people in which every man shouts out and prattles on about whatever he wants." (Chaucer) In a similar vein, Philosophers should be Kings. Being pragmatic, ban all shouting prattlers from Social Media. That would help. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 19:36:15 GMT
We could have a democratic vote about who has posted the most content on the forum today.
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Post by phil70 on Feb 15, 2021 22:36:11 GMT
And then another one for who has posted the most sensible
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 16, 2021 8:59:44 GMT
Democracy would be fine were it not for rabid socialists seizing the agenda with their populist 'equality for all' message. This is the 'equality' that inserts individuals into clearly defined groups and balances their interests against one other. In other words, it takes from the less worthy groups in order to enhance the position of those considered more worthy. Doesn't immediately smack of equality, but there you go. And then, fearful that the higher taxes needed to fund the required largesse might lose its populist vote they print increasingly worthless money instead. This devalues existing money and therefore acts as a stealth tax on those who have some money/assets, money or assets on which, of course, tax has already been paid.
So there we go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 9:05:39 GMT
Democracy would be fine were it not for rabid socialists seizing the agenda with their populist 'equality for all' message. This is the 'equality' that inserts individuals into clearly defined groups and balances their interests against one other. In other words, it takes from the less worthy groups in order to enhance the position of those considered more worthy. Doesn't immediately smack of equality, but there you go. And then, fearful that the higher taxes needed to fund the required largesse might lose its populist vote they print increasingly worthless money instead. This devalues existing money and therefore acts as a stealth tax on those who have some money/assets, money or assets on which, of course, tax has already been paid. So there we go. I said democracy not dogmatism. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 16, 2021 9:15:25 GMT
Democracy would be fine were it not for rabid socialists seizing the agenda with their populist 'equality for all' message. This is the 'equality' that inserts individuals into clearly defined groups and balances their interests against one other. In other words, it takes from the less worthy groups in order to enhance the position of those considered more worthy. Doesn't immediately smack of equality, but there you go. And then, fearful that the higher taxes needed to fund the required largesse might lose its populist vote they print increasingly worthless money instead. This devalues existing money and therefore acts as a stealth tax on those who have some money/assets, money or assets on which, of course, tax has already been paid. So there we go. Replace worthy with need and needy, tax those who have far more than enough to help those in need. Why, though, should we be subsidising the profits of major companies, they pay workers a pittance, not enough to feed a family, then the state has to top it up via universal credit. Still, the boss then gets to play with spaceships, so that makes it all better, the poor can gaze up in wonder at the product of their graft flying by. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 9:49:18 GMT
Democracy would be fine were it not for rabid socialists seizing the agenda with their populist 'equality for all' message. This is the 'equality' that inserts individuals into clearly defined groups and balances their interests against one other. In other words, it takes from the less worthy groups in order to enhance the position of those considered more worthy. Doesn't immediately smack of equality, but there you go. And then, fearful that the higher taxes needed to fund the required largesse might lose its populist vote they print increasingly worthless money instead. This devalues existing money and therefore acts as a stealth tax on those who have some money/assets, money or assets on which, of course, tax has already been paid. So there we go. Replace worthy with need and needy, tax those who have far more than enough to help those in need. Why, though, should we be subsidising the profits of major companies, they pay workers a pittance, not enough to feed a family, then the state has to top it up via universal credit. Still, the boss then gets to play with spaceships, so that makes it all better, the poor can gaze up in wonder at the product of their graft flying by. And thats politics that is. Concentrate. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 16, 2021 9:53:48 GMT
Replace worthy with need and needy, tax those who have far more than enough to help those in need. Why, though, should we be subsidising the profits of major companies, they pay workers a pittance, not enough to feed a family, then the state has to top it up via universal credit. Still, the boss then gets to play with spaceships, so that makes it all better, the poor can gaze up in wonder at the product of their graft flying by. And thats politics that is. Concentrate. But Sir Sir Clinton Cool was naughty Sir, posting twaddle. I'm allowed to comment on politics I'm educated. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 16, 2021 10:16:40 GMT
Democracy would be fine were it not for rabid socialists seizing the agenda with their populist 'equality for all' message. This is the 'equality' that inserts individuals into clearly defined groups and balances their interests against one other. In other words, it takes from the less worthy groups in order to enhance the position of those considered more worthy. Doesn't immediately smack of equality, but there you go. And then, fearful that the higher taxes needed to fund the required largesse might lose its populist vote they print increasingly worthless money instead. This devalues existing money and therefore acts as a stealth tax on those who have some money/assets, money or assets on which, of course, tax has already been paid. So there we go. Replace worthy with need and needy, tax those who have far more than enough to help those in need. Why, though, should we be subsidising the profits of major companies, they pay workers a pittance, not enough to feed a family, then the state has to top it up via universal credit. Still, the boss then gets to play with spaceships, so that makes it all better, the poor can gaze up in wonder at the product of their graft flying by. Indeed. When the socialist Brown introduced 'working tax credits' and 'child tax credits' it didn't seem a particularly good idea. Time has confirmed this. Of course, it's very easy to create new benefits, just the stroke of a pen, they will be widely welcomed by the populists. It's another matter altogether to get rid of them, nigh on impossible. Any talk of even a slight reduction has the populist supported socialists up in arms. And so we have it, spells of socialist government when both businesses and individuals expect the government to provide for their every need with borrowed/ printed money, followed by spells of Tory government, who are unable to reign any of this back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 11:03:11 GMT
Blair and Brown were red torys, bugger all to do with socialism.
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Post by Jim on Feb 16, 2021 11:26:55 GMT
Replace worthy with need and needy, tax those who have far more than enough to help those in need. Why, though, should we be subsidising the profits of major companies, they pay workers a pittance, not enough to feed a family, then the state has to top it up via universal credit. Still, the boss then gets to play with spaceships, so that makes it all better, the poor can gaze up in wonder at the product of their graft flying by. Indeed. When the socialist Brown introduced 'working tax credits' and 'child tax credits' it didn't seem a particularly good idea. Time has confirmed this. Of course, it's very easy to create new benefits, just the stroke of a pen, they will be widely welcomed by the populists. It's another matter altogether to get rid of them, nigh on impossible. Any talk of even a slight reduction has the populist supported socialists up in arms. And so we have it, spells of socialist government when both businesses and individuals expect the government to provide for their every need with borrowed/ printed money, followed by spells of Tory government, who are unable to reign any of this back. Missing the point again, it was introduced because it was necessary. Big business realised they could get a subsidy. I think you should have been entitled to claim during lockdown when your income plummeted. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 11:39:05 GMT
Jesus Christ.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 16, 2021 11:43:44 GMT
Claim off who exactly? The government has already borrowed 35K on behalf of each man, woman and child. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 12:20:33 GMT
"It is only when a monarch is reigning that the human race exists for its own sake, and not for the sake of something else. For it is only then that perverted forms of government are made straight, to wit, democracies, oligarchies, and tyrannies, which force the human race into slavery (as is obvious to whosoever runs through them all)..."
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