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Post by Jim on Mar 1, 2021 12:40:19 GMT
I have bought a BMW I3 Rex slow and boring it isnt! We are playing a game of seeing how far we can drive it before paying for the first charge, its at 350 miles currently and its 3/4 charged at the moment tomorrow i have to go to sheffield for a couple of hours so it will get another free charge whilst I am there I won’t be driving an electric car until I’m old. I love petrol. I love the smell, the noise, playing with the engines..It’s bad enough having a diesel boat. Electric is a step to far for my taste. Obviously, your happy with them. Enjoy. Just put a cup full of petrol in the cup holder in the electric car. You'll still get exhaust fumes from the other smelly vehicles. I'm surprised you don't want better acceleration than the old fashioned ICEs.
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Post by ianali on Mar 1, 2021 12:52:27 GMT
I won’t be driving an electric car until I’m old. I love petrol. I love the smell, the noise, playing with the engines..It’s bad enough having a diesel boat. Electric is a step to far for my taste. Obviously, your happy with them. Enjoy. Just put a cup full of petrol in the cup holder in the electric car. You'll still get exhaust fumes from the other smelly vehicles. I'm surprised you don't want better acceleration than the old fashioned ICEs. I don’t want to spend £50,000 plus for an electric vehicle that gives the sort of performance I want/have. It’s more about the fun of engines that I can play with for me really. It’s personal taste and choice I suppose? As long as what I have is legal il crack on. Another 20 years will do for me, petrol wise. After that il submit and drive around in the little Chinese cars that the post started with.
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Post by peterboat on Mar 1, 2021 12:59:27 GMT
I have 2 of these Andrew one for spares cost nowt and one i Paid 800 squids for which I have put lithiums in Now if I had to drive that I wouldn’t mind wearing a mask 😷 It gets better, its in Lamborghini burnt orange!! with a silver roof
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Post by ianali on Mar 1, 2021 13:01:17 GMT
Now if I had to drive that I wouldn’t mind wearing a mask 😷 It gets better, its in Lamborghini burnt orange!! with a silver roof Colour is a major factor 😊
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Post by peterboat on Mar 1, 2021 13:05:33 GMT
Just put a cup full of petrol in the cup holder in the electric car. You'll still get exhaust fumes from the other smelly vehicles. I'm surprised you don't want better acceleration than the old fashioned ICEs. I don’t want to spend £50,000 plus for an electric vehicle that gives the sort of performance I want/have. It’s more about the fun of engines that I can play with for me really. It’s personal taste and choice I suppose? As long as what I have is legal il crack on. Another 20 years will do for me, petrol wise. After that il submit and drive around in the little Chinese cars that the post started with. The I3 is quick 170 hp 184Ibs torque and it weighs not a lot as its carbon fiber and ali, mid range is awesome 0-60 a touch over 7 seconds 15k wasnt a bad price
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Post by Jim on Mar 1, 2021 13:24:36 GMT
I don’t want to spend £50,000 plus for an electric vehicle that gives the sort of performance I want/have. It’s more about the fun of engines that I can play with for me really. It’s personal taste and choice I suppose? As long as what I have is legal il crack on. Another 20 years will do for me, petrol wise. After that il submit and drive around in the little Chinese cars that the post started with. The I3 is quick 170 hp 184Ibs torque and it weighs not a lot as its carbon fiber and ali, mid range is awesome 0-60 a touch over 7 seconds 15k wasnt a bad price No good for me, officially no towing capacity, though it's mentioned on the net that it tows great. Looks like the way to go is to fit batteries and e motors to the caravan with a load sensing towhitch. I've also read of the possibility of using the caravan batts as a powerbank for the house, feed them the excess solar. I like that idea. cleantechnica.com/2018/09/01/electric-camper-towed-by-bmw-i3-shines-in-dusseldorf/
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Post by ianali on Mar 1, 2021 13:40:50 GMT
I don’t want to spend £50,000 plus for an electric vehicle that gives the sort of performance I want/have. It’s more about the fun of engines that I can play with for me really. It’s personal taste and choice I suppose? As long as what I have is legal il crack on. Another 20 years will do for me, petrol wise. After that il submit and drive around in the little Chinese cars that the post started with. The I3 is quick 170 hp 184Ibs torque and it weighs not a lot as its carbon fiber and ali, mid range is awesome 0-60 a touch over 7 seconds 15k wasnt a bad price Not the sort of performance I want, but i accept its not slow for that type of car. It’s still a 40 grand car new I believe? Ali has just brought a petrol car with similar performance for half that. So a bit of movement needed on price before it’s comparable. Anyway, as I said earlier, for me it’s more a hobby playing with cars. I3 looks like a good drive though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 16:33:00 GMT
I don’t want to spend £50,000 plus for an electric vehicle that gives the sort of performance I want/have. It’s more about the fun of engines that I can play with for me really. It’s personal taste and choice I suppose? As long as what I have is legal il crack on. Another 20 years will do for me, petrol wise. After that il submit and drive around in the little Chinese cars that the post started with. The I3 is quick 170 hp 184Ibs torque and it weighs not a lot as its carbon fiber and ali, mid range is awesome 0-60 a touch over 7 seconds 15k wasnt a bad price Nice car but useless for me, no towing capacity. It might be light but it's less powerful than the Yeti which is 180bhp and 410nm of torque.😱 And even with the lack of weight the I3 is only about a second quicker over 0-60 😁 Also range as always will be a problem for me as I don't like stopping on the journey to the boat apart from a quick wee. Plus I am never ever spending £15k on a car
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 16:39:28 GMT
I really like the 0-60 thing. Specially on motorway slip roads. Everyone else floors it while I crawl along in my little car then five minutes later I go flying past them at 95mph.
I expect they will get to keep their license longer to be fair. And the acceleration seems to fulfil some bizarre human instinct thing too.
Me I like driving fast, as fast as possible which is why a small car is sensible.
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Post by Jim on Mar 1, 2021 17:15:02 GMT
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Post by ianali on Mar 1, 2021 17:53:18 GMT
Yeh but EVs are still boring! The T&E company have some pretty ladies working for them though.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 1, 2021 20:27:18 GMT
Like most "facts" provided by the press it is slanted to get the picture they want.
now ask the question "which produces the most pollution, factoring in that produced by the mining, refining, manufacturing and running a new electric car for the next 10 years, compared to running my existing ICE car for the next ten years"
Incidentally I don't actually know the full details of either but I'll give odds that there will be a length of time that running an existing car (especially if you do a lowish mileage) will be less polluting than buying and running a new electric one for that same time
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 20:57:18 GMT
It's a bit ironic but a good way for a company like Tesla to get into the market is to sell premium cars to people who already have the V8 petrol thing but want to also have an electric car to show off their "green" attitude. Despite the fact that they are incredibly heavy consumers of energy in every way.
The theory is that after a while the company can move to more ordinary and genuinely sustainable products over time.
I'm not sure if this will happen with Tesla and I suspect they are a flash in the pan marketing device but it will be interesting to watch it going forward..
If I live long enough!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 21:41:49 GMT
Like most "facts" provided by the press it is slanted to get the picture they want.
now ask the question "which produces the most pollution, factoring in that produced by the mining, refining, manufacturing and running a new electric car for the next 10 years, compared to running my existing ICE car for the next ten years"
Incidentally I don't actually know the full details of either but I'll give odds that there will be a length of time that running an existing car (especially if you do a lowish mileage) will be less polluting than buying and running a new electric one for that same time
Its a classic argument - and I agree. My car is almost 15 years old and less than 100,000 on the clock. I anticipate another perhaps 40,000 before rust eats it and expect / hope it will last until its 20th birthday. I expect an analysis of cost of production and cost to the environment over its life-span would compare well to the average electric vehicle. But anyway you look at it, electric vehicles will become the norm and this sort of argument will become less and less realistic. Its probably the older generation who will lament the demise of ICEs the loudest. Also I agree with the notion that in the event of a major collision from the rear (and probably anywhere else) the occupants are toast. In the Yaris, rear seat passengers are a mere 8 inches from the point of collision. I recall a well-known event on the M3 involving a stationary line of traffic and a 10-ton lorry. Driving the lorry had become of secondary importance to messing with the phone. The driver of the lorry, which was on cruise control at the time, apparently apologised to a driver whose car had been damaged but failed to notice there had been another car between the lorry and the other car. It was still there, but had become considerably shorter. My conclusion is that humans are crap at controlling moving vehicles and should be taken out of the loop. Also, speed is the major factor in almost all fatal accidents. It would seem a relatively simple thing to produce a car which is incapable of exceeding the speed limit on any given road by a cross-connection of gps and autonomous driving devices. I tend to drive quite slowly compared to most others these days. Its a mix of not demanding that my old car give everything it has left in one go and parsimony. Any passengers uttering the words 'it would be faster to walk' will be given the opportunity to regret it.
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Post by ianali on Mar 1, 2021 23:13:04 GMT
Like most "facts" provided by the press it is slanted to get the picture they want.
now ask the question "which produces the most pollution, factoring in that produced by the mining, refining, manufacturing and running a new electric car for the next 10 years, compared to running my existing ICE car for the next ten years"
Incidentally I don't actually know the full details of either but I'll give odds that there will be a length of time that running an existing car (especially if you do a lowish mileage) will be less polluting than buying and running a new electric one for that same time
Its a classic argument - and I agree. My car is almost 15 years old and less than 100,000 on the clock. I anticipate another perhaps 40,000 before rust eats it and expect / hope it will last until its 20th birthday. I expect an analysis of cost of production and cost to the environment over its life-span would compare well to the average electric vehicle. But anyway you look at it, electric vehicles will become the norm and this sort of argument will become less and less realistic. Its probably the older generation who will lament the demise of ICEs the loudest. Also I agree with the notion that in the event of a major collision from the rear (and probably anywhere else) the occupants are toast. In the Yaris, rear seat passengers are a mere 8 inches from the point of collision. I recall a well-known event on the M3 involving a stationary line of traffic and a 10-ton lorry. Driving the lorry had become of secondary importance to messing with the phone. The driver of the lorry, which was on cruise control at the time, apparently apologised to a driver whose car had been damaged but failed to notice there had been another car between the lorry and the other car. It was still there, but had become considerably shorter. My conclusion is that humans are crap at controlling moving vehicles and should be taken out of the loop. Also, speed is the major factor in almost all fatal accidents. It would seem a relatively simple thing to produce a car which is incapable of exceeding the speed limit on any given road by a cross-connection of gps and autonomous driving devices. I tend to drive quite slowly compared to most others these days. Its a mix of not demanding that my old car give everything it has left in one go and parsimony. Any passengers uttering the words 'it would be faster to walk' will be given the opportunity to regret it. Your conclusions are incorrect.
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